Pumped out old Diesel added New to a 10 year garaged 75 cdti, now engine won't start

tourerboy75 · 26th September 2020, 11:59

Hello.

Can anyone help me please. I have a garaged Rover 75 CDTI, year 2002 on a SORN with just 23,000 on the clock. I decided to put it back on the road again after 10 years of storage. I want to give it a complete service and clean up before it's new MOT.

I wanted to ged rid of the 10 year old stood diesel in the tank. I've pumped out as much of the old diesel as I could from the fuel tank to virtually emptying it using the under bonnet fuel pump with clear tubing into a jerry can. I then refilled the tank to just under half full with some new diesel. I used to turn the engine over regulary before and it would always start first time with no problems, but after the new fuel refill the engine just turns over but it absolutely refuses to start.

I've checked both the back seat and under bonnet pumps and they can be heard to be working fine. I have unclipped the outlet flow pipe from the fuel filter and inserted some clear tubing to see if fuel is flowing through the fuel filter to the outlet point on the other side of the filter, which it is when the ignition is turned fully on. So fuel is getting through to this point.

Any ideas on what may be causing the engine now not to start. The engine did start first time before I started to empty the old fuel out. It did take me an hour and a half to empty the fuel using the UBP by turning the ignition on and off for a minute evertime. Have I caused any damage to the Fuel Injectors or the Glow Plugs by having the ignition fully turned on whist emtying, or have I burnt out something that I am not aware of.

Any advice would be much appreciated. It's a lovely car with no body rust or major bodywork scars, it's like new inside and out and I'm scratching my head for away to get it restarted and on the road again.

Thanks for any replies.

trikey · 26th September 2020, 14:19

Try unplugging the sensor on the fuel filter and see if that works

tourerboy75 · 26th September 2020, 14:46

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Originally Posted by trikey

Try unplugging the sensor on the fuel filter and see if that works

Thanks, I will try this out and report back later.

Update: I removed fuel filter sensor, first key turn and it nearly offered to strike up, so tried several times again afterwards, I just got the cranking but no offer of the engine starting. I left it for 30 minutes and tried again and still just the cranking and no offer to start.

Ha well, back to the drawing boards I'm afraid.

trikey · 26th September 2020, 19:09

How much fuel have you put in?

steve-45 · 26th September 2020, 19:14

Hi Andy, he said just under half full in the first post.

trikey · 26th September 2020, 19:20

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Originally Posted by steve-45

Hi Andy, he said just under half full in the first post.

Serve me right for not reading lol

I would jack the drivers side of the car up to ensure the fuel is on the opposite side of the tank and see if that works.

roverbarmy · 27th September 2020, 14:24

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Originally Posted by tourerboy75

Thanks Mike Noc for your suggestions. I will also swap over and try the camshaft sensor like you suggest, I have a new fuel filter with my other service bits and pieces so I may as well change it at the same time. I will have to buy some Easystart on Monday, a handy thing to keep in the boot as well.

Be very careful with easystart. It can break the crank or pop a piston crown. Have someone crank the engine whilst you just give it a quick sniff. Too much and it is almost explosive.

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myfirstrover · 27th September 2020, 14:38

Just a thought , does diesel deteriorate like petrol if left a long time ?

roverbarmy · 27th September 2020, 17:23

Old fuel and gunge in filter wouldn't help. Glad you're up and running.

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SCP440 · 27th September 2020, 18:35

Probably an air leak or gunk.

I would run some injector cleaner through it, half the bottle in the filter and the rest in the tank.

If you have a bypass or stretch of dual carriageway between you and the test centre I would make sure it gets a good couple of blasts before it goes for a test.

26th September 2020, 11:59	#1
tourerboy75 Regular poster Rover 75 Tourer CDT Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Spalding Posts: 31 Thanks: 7 Thanked 9 Times in 3 Posts	Pumped out old Diesel added New to a 10 year garaged 75 cdti, now engine won't start Hello. Can anyone help me please. I have a garaged Rover 75 CDTI, year 2002 on a SORN with just 23,000 on the clock. I decided to put it back on the road again after 10 years of storage. I want to give it a complete service and clean up before it's new MOT. I wanted to ged rid of the 10 year old stood diesel in the tank. I've pumped out as much of the old diesel as I could from the fuel tank to virtually emptying it using the under bonnet fuel pump with clear tubing into a jerry can. I then refilled the tank to just under half full with some new diesel. I used to turn the engine over regulary before and it would always start first time with no problems, but after the new fuel refill the engine just turns over but it absolutely refuses to start. I've checked both the back seat and under bonnet pumps and they can be heard to be working fine. I have unclipped the outlet flow pipe from the fuel filter and inserted some clear tubing to see if fuel is flowing through the fuel filter to the outlet point on the other side of the filter, which it is when the ignition is turned fully on. So fuel is getting through to this point. Any ideas on what may be causing the engine now not to start. The engine did start first time before I started to empty the old fuel out. It did take me an hour and a half to empty the fuel using the UBP by turning the ignition on and off for a minute evertime. Have I caused any damage to the Fuel Injectors or the Glow Plugs by having the ignition fully turned on whist emtying, or have I burnt out something that I am not aware of. Any advice would be much appreciated. It's a lovely car with no body rust or major bodywork scars, it's like new inside and out and I'm scratching my head for away to get it restarted and on the road again. Thanks for any replies.

26th September 2020, 14:19	#2
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,773 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	Try unplugging the sensor on the fuel filter and see if that works __________________ Lest we forget..

26th September 2020, 19:09	#4
trikey Premium Trader Rover 75 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 33,773 Thanks: 8,837 Thanked 14,831 Times in 8,030 Posts	How much fuel have you put in? __________________ Lest we forget..

27th September 2020, 17:23	#9
roverbarmy This is my second home Roverless + 1.7D Sportage Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Norfolk Posts: 7,050 Thanks: 729 Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,449 Posts	Old fuel and gunge in filter wouldn't help. Glad you're up and running. Sent from my SM-G903F using Tapatalk __________________ Oil in my veins!

26th September 2020, 19:14	#5
steve-45 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon CDTi Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Belvedere Posts: 4,076 Thanks: 108 Thanked 1,089 Times in 774 Posts	Hi Andy, he said just under half full in the first post.

27th September 2020, 14:38	#8
myfirstrover Posted a thing or two Rover 75 2.0 cdi Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 1,896 Thanks: 401 Thanked 448 Times in 303 Posts	Just a thought , does diesel deteriorate like petrol if left a long time ?

27th September 2020, 18:35	#10
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	Probably an air leak or gunk. I would run some injector cleaner through it, half the bottle in the filter and the rest in the tank. If you have a bypass or stretch of dual carriageway between you and the test centre I would make sure it gets a good couple of blasts before it goes for a test.