KV6 190 - Upgrades?? - Page 11

Neil1 · 5th August 2016, 12:52

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Originally Posted by andy willi

my ztt is a well sorted car and i wont tell on how i did it if you want to know how good it is ask andy trikey you are all going the wrong way on this, go back to basics on how to tune an engine , think old time ,

my car is fast

andy

You crafty devil..........old school tuning..........

Everyone is making this far more complicated than it's needs to be.

Elliott · 5th August 2016, 14:50

I have no tuning secrets, i'm an open book, when it was said by andy willi to go old school I just thought about my old Hunter from the 80's can't get much more old school than that. An engine is just an air pump. you just need to get more air in get a bigger bang get more air out.

If andy has any new secrets that haven't been mentioned I'm always willing to learn, but I don't profess or pretend to know more than any one else and certainly do not pretend to have a God complex!.

Maybe a bit of Devil and anti establishment in me but that's about it sorry as well if any one feels offended or belittled

neilb740 · 5th August 2016, 15:01

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Originally Posted by TomRS

Honda Fwiend!!!

I love my ATR, best car i've ever had... had her 7yrs and she's had two shells and about 5 engines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUl6PooveJE

Elliott · 5th August 2016, 15:08

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Originally Posted by neilb740

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUl6PooveJE

Kwippy1878 · 5th August 2016, 19:44

May be try using a kv6 2ltr as that's the engine xpower used in the touring car. Apparently you can get more power from them than a 2.5 go figure

Neil1 · 6th August 2016, 14:28

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Originally Posted by neilb740

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUl6PooveJE

The old ones are the best!

Neil1 · 6th August 2016, 14:32

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Originally Posted by Elliott

I have no tuning secrets, i'm an open book, when it was said by andy willi to go old school I just thought about my old Hunter from the 80's can't get much more old school than that. An engine is just an air pump. you just need to get more air in get a bigger bang get more air out.

If andy has any new secrets that haven't been mentioned I'm always willing to learn, but I don't profess or pretend to know more than any one else and certainly do not pretend to have a God complex!.

Maybe a bit of Devil and anti establishment in me but that's about it sorry as well if any one feels offended or belittled

What you did is old school, to me it is.

Plus you certainly haven't done anything to offend anyone.

Neil1 · 6th August 2016, 15:03

The way I think about this is, firstly you make sure everything is working as it should.
TomRS said the vis motors etc have been done.

So the engine is all hunky dory, cool.

Now I would change the air filter to a sports one, K&N or Pipercross or something else.

Exhaust wise, well the KV6 pretty much has a decent enough exhaust as it is, unless you want a better sound then a different backbox could be fitted. But don't overdo the bore size as that can decrease power.

There is a book called, Forced Induction Performance Tuning which is well worth getting, it's an old book but can be expensive to buy.

On Amazon it was £72+ which is ridiculous.

I had a look on BookFinder and the cheapest on there was £65.11

BookFinder is good for finding any book!

That's all I can think of for now.

TomRS · 8th August 2016, 07:54

Thats all done.

Manifolds are gonna get custom made in the next few weeks, im looking into maybe running some form of home brew supercharger kit.

From looking at many pics of the Sprintex kit i reckon something could be made.
I am awaiting a reply from sprintex first.

I just find it hugely annoying that my 150bhp 2.5 tdi 1999 Audi is quicker than my apparant 190bhp KV6.
Granted the Audi weighs 200kg less and has wayyyy more torque but come one rover!!!

minimutly · 8th August 2016, 16:24

One has a turbo, and isn't detonation limited, the other hasn't a turbo, and is, not that the detonation limitation has a huge amount to do with petrol engine output.
Are you really suprised?
There's a reasion the Racmsa use 1.7 as the equivalence for turbo engines in competition.

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Elliott Loves to post Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Sheerness Posts: 261 Thanks: 174 Thanked 61 Times in 50 Posts	I have no tuning secrets, i'm an open book, when it was said by andy willi to go old school I just thought about my old Hunter from the 80's can't get much more old school than that. An engine is just an air pump. you just need to get more air in get a bigger bang get more air out. If andy has any new secrets that haven't been mentioned I'm always willing to learn, but I don't profess or pretend to know more than any one else and certainly do not pretend to have a God complex!. Maybe a bit of Devil and anti establishment in me but that's about it sorry as well if any one feels offended or belittled __________________ I would be so fast if I could only get going

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Kwippy1878 Loves to post MG ZT Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Queensferry Posts: 274 Thanks: 35 Thanked 43 Times in 25 Posts	May be try using a kv6 2ltr as that's the engine xpower used in the touring car. Apparently you can get more power from them than a 2.5 go figure __________________ MG ZT 190+ Mods fitted : Rear electric blind, Set of 11's, Mk2 BCU remote bootlid, Android 10 carplay headunit off assembly line ; Friday 12th July 2002 @ 09:24 Registered on 1st November 2002 5,420th to run off production line, out of 18,894 2,029th ZT 190+ to be made out of 4,023 14th in Xpower grey (code: LEF) to be made out of 3,143

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Neil1 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T CDTI Auto Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Newton Abbot Posts: 2,624 Thanks: 1,342 Thanked 518 Times in 425 Posts	The way I think about this is, firstly you make sure everything is working as it should. TomRS said the vis motors etc have been done. So the engine is all hunky dory, cool. Now I would change the air filter to a sports one, K&N or Pipercross or something else. Exhaust wise, well the KV6 pretty much has a decent enough exhaust as it is, unless you want a better sound then a different backbox could be fitted. But don't overdo the bore size as that can decrease power. There is a book called, Forced Induction Performance Tuning which is well worth getting, it's an old book but can be expensive to buy. On Amazon it was £72+ which is ridiculous. I had a look on BookFinder and the cheapest on there was £65.11 BookFinder is good for finding any book! That's all I can think of for now. __________________ Rover 75 and MG ZT: The Complete Story

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TomRS Posted a thing or two Mk1 ZT 190 - Mk2 ZS 180 - Mercedes E63 AMG S - Ford Ranger Hawk Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 1,456 Thanks: 123 Thanked 409 Times in 281 Posts	Thats all done. Manifolds are gonna get custom made in the next few weeks, im looking into maybe running some form of home brew supercharger kit. From looking at many pics of the Sprintex kit i reckon something could be made. I am awaiting a reply from sprintex first. I just find it hugely annoying that my 150bhp 2.5 tdi 1999 Audi is quicker than my apparant 190bhp KV6. Granted the Audi weighs 200kg less and has wayyyy more torque but come one rover!!! __________________ http://i66.tinypic.com/5cd6xj.jpg

8th August 2016, 16:24	#110
minimutly Posted a thing or two mg zt Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: cardigan Posts: 1,087 Thanks: 28 Thanked 187 Times in 158 Posts	One has a turbo, and isn't detonation limited, the other hasn't a turbo, and is, not that the detonation limitation has a huge amount to do with petrol engine output. Are you really suprised? There's a reasion the Racmsa use 1.7 as the equivalence for turbo engines in competition.