IPK Change

ardvark · 12th January 2020, 16:09

My new diesel conny has a few lines on the ipk screen. I still have my old diesel club se.
What will I need to do to change one with the other?
Is it just the screen or is it better to do the whole instrument cluster?
If it's the latter my concern is the mileage readout.
The clubs se is over 250000 miles where the conny is only 160 odd thousand.

macafee2 · 12th January 2020, 16:28

I don't think you need to worry about the details held in each set of clocks, they can be moved from one to the other. I've had it done twice. T4 required, not sure about "Toaff"

Bear I mind there is lo line and hi line, I think that's what they are called. Hi allows you to access digital features as the display is different.

macafee2

Rick-sta · 12th January 2020, 16:43

Assuming theyre both highline clusters you can swap the eeprom chip from one to the other which will transfer all the coding across. Just note if you have parking sensors that clusters from early 75's which had a seperate parking sensor sounder at the rear of the car dont support parking sensors on later cars.

Also note mkii clusters have white leds behind the dials whereas mki clusters have amber leds behind the dials.

marinabrian · 12th January 2020, 16:44

Both message centre IPK I assume? then you need to open them up and transfer the 93S56 EEprom from the old IPK to that of the new.

It is an SOIC8 serial eeprom

All the information pertinent to the car is contained on this device.

If you don't fancy doing the job yourself, I've done this sort of thing before

Brian

I see Rick beat me to the punch

Rick-sta · 12th January 2020, 16:45

If you plug the cluster in as it is you will have a vin mismatch error and "Err" will show on the trip computer and the mileage will be wrong.

ardvark · 12th January 2020, 19:25

NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- that. I'll leave things as they are.
To complicated.

marinabrian · 12th January 2020, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardvark

NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- that. I'll leave things as they are.
To complicated.

Lol, ten minute job for me, stick them both in the post along with something to cover the return postage, and I'll sort it out for you

Brian

Ivar Birkeflot · 16th June 2020, 09:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinabrian

Both message centre IPK I assume? then you need to open them up and transfer the 93S56 EEprom from the old IPK to that of the new.

It is an SOIC8 serial eeprom

All the information pertinent to the car is contained on this device.

If you don't fancy doing the job yourself, I've done this sort of thing before

Brian

I see Rick beat me to the punch

Hi! is this eeprom soldered? Considering replace the instrument-cluster from a donor due to lines in IPK

Rick-sta · 16th June 2020, 09:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivar Birkeflot

Hi! is this eeprom soldered? Considering replace the instrument-cluster from a donor due to lines in IPK

Yes it is soldered.

peelaaa · 16th June 2020, 17:11

Interesting thread.

I have a spare message centre mk1 IPK that I had fitted to a mk2 tpurer before. That car is now scrapped.

The 75 I have now has the no message centre IPK (Mk2)

So all I need to do is solder the eprom from the car I have now into the message centre IPK??

Or do both need to be message centres?

12th January 2020, 16:09	#1
ardvark Al 75 CDTI Tourer Auto Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Studley Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 1 Thanked 69 Times in 48 Posts	IPK Change My new diesel conny has a few lines on the ipk screen. I still have my old diesel club se. What will I need to do to change one with the other? Is it just the screen or is it better to do the whole instrument cluster? If it's the latter my concern is the mileage readout. The clubs se is over 250000 miles where the conny is only 160 odd thousand. __________________ ARDVARK

12th January 2020, 16:43	#3
Rick-sta This is my second home MG ZT 2.0 CDTI+ in Typhoon, MG TF 135 in Typhoon & Rover 75 Connoisseur CDTI SE in Pearl Black Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Norfolk Posts: 7,534 Thanks: 2,718 Thanked 2,827 Times in 1,462 Posts	Assuming theyre both highline clusters you can swap the eeprom chip from one to the other which will transfer all the coding across. Just note if you have parking sensors that clusters from early 75's which had a seperate parking sensor sounder at the rear of the car dont support parking sensors on later cars. Also note mkii clusters have white leds behind the dials whereas mki clusters have amber leds behind the dials. __________________ How to retrofit Cruise Control on a diesel with no OEM wiring in place: Link How to retrofit heated electric memory seats with no OEM wiring in place: Link How to operate FBH and ATC via text Link How to restore cloudy projector headlights Link

12th January 2020, 16:45	#5
Rick-sta This is my second home MG ZT 2.0 CDTI+ in Typhoon, MG TF 135 in Typhoon & Rover 75 Connoisseur CDTI SE in Pearl Black Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Norfolk Posts: 7,534 Thanks: 2,718 Thanked 2,827 Times in 1,462 Posts	If you plug the cluster in as it is you will have a vin mismatch error and "Err" will show on the trip computer and the mileage will be wrong. __________________ How to retrofit Cruise Control on a diesel with no OEM wiring in place: Link How to retrofit heated electric memory seats with no OEM wiring in place: Link How to operate FBH and ATC via text Link How to restore cloudy projector headlights Link

12th January 2020, 19:25	#6
ardvark Al 75 CDTI Tourer Auto Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Studley Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 1 Thanked 69 Times in 48 Posts	NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- that. I'll leave things as they are. To complicated. __________________ ARDVARK

12th January 2020, 16:28	#2
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,926 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	I don't think you need to worry about the details held in each set of clocks, they can be moved from one to the other. I've had it done twice. T4 required, not sure about "Toaff" Bear I mind there is lo line and hi line, I think that's what they are called. Hi allows you to access digital features as the display is different. macafee2

12th January 2020, 16:44	#4
marinabrian MG ZT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 20,151 Thanks: 3,565 Thanked 10,837 Times in 5,718 Posts	Both message centre IPK I assume? then you need to open them up and transfer the 93S56 EEprom from the old IPK to that of the new. It is an SOIC8 serial eeprom All the information pertinent to the car is contained on this device. If you don't fancy doing the job yourself, I've done this sort of thing before Brian I see Rick beat me to the punch

16th June 2020, 17:11	#10
peelaaa Posted a thing or two 75 cdti 2004 contemporary Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: meath Posts: 1,551 Thanks: 272 Thanked 80 Times in 58 Posts	Interesting thread. I have a spare message centre mk1 IPK that I had fitted to a mk2 tpurer before. That car is now scrapped. The 75 I have now has the no message centre IPK (Mk2) So all I need to do is solder the eprom from the car I have now into the message centre IPK?? Or do both need to be message centres?