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Old 12th November 2008, 21:30   #11
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Fogey,
Don't try to do it with adhesive. Go to your builders merchant (usually cheaper than B&Q) and get some floor levelling compound. Mix it as instructions and pour it on, it'll find it's own level and then tile as normal on that! HTH

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Old 12th November 2008, 21:50   #12
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Old 12th November 2008, 22:39   #13
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A couple of other points -

screw the floorboards to the joists and then screw the ply at 6 inch centres to the floorboards, it seems over the top I know but if you dont and the grout keeps cracking and coming out its too late to fix it !

And its important to use screws not nails !

And also its a good idea to use silicone round the edges not grout as grout is likely to crack when the floor moves

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Old 13th November 2008, 07:25   #14
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Sort it out with self levelling compound , trying to do it with the adhesive is asking for grief.

What are you tiling onto ?

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OK, should have read all the posts first, as its on to a flexible substrate use two part (latex type) self levelling.

Does it really matter that the floor is not level, note I say level as it does need to be flat.
Self-levelling is no good if the floor slopes, it will try to run with the gradient.

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Self-levelling is no good if the floor slopes, it will try to run with the gradient.

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That's kind of what it's supposed to do.....

How steep a slope are we talking here? Will there be a lake of self-levelling compound up against the skirting board or does 'sloping' mean 'not entirely level'?
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That's kind of what it's supposed to do.....

How steep a slope are we talking here? Will there be a lake of self-levelling compound up against the skirting board or does 'sloping' mean 'not entirely level'?

It's not an excessive slope - the floor just slopes down slightly towards the door - have to go with it as it is as I dont want to create a step in the doorway (just means it'll be an uphill walk to the loo in the mornings )
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What about concrete or stone floors. Can I use the self level stuff on that?
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That's kind of what it's supposed to do.....

No, it's for filling in dips, nooks and crannies on an otherwise LEVEL floor.

How steep a slope are we talking here? Will there be a lake of self-levelling compound up against the skirting board or does 'sloping' mean 'not entirely level'?
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Self-levelling is no good if the floor slopes, it will try to run with the gradient.
'self levelling' can also been referred to as smoothing compound - depending on how thick you make it up.

Obviously if you have an appreciable gradient you have to be a bit vigilant while its going off and re-trowel as required

I once 'plastered' a metre or so of rough brickwork above a worktop with it prior to tiling, a case of making do with what you have to hand ! made it up very thick with sand, worked fine.

If you do use it make sure it is very well stirred, with a drill mixer is best, and then let it stand with the occasional slow stir with a stick to allow the air you have stirred in to rise, though not too important if you are tiling onto it

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What about concrete or stone floors. Can I use the self level stuff on that?
Definately - you can even use the cheapo one pack type !

If its going under vinyl remember to rub it over prior to laying the floor covering with a rubbing block (or a brick) to remove any trowel marks or snots

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