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[HarryM1BYT]

Originally Posted by Saga Lout

If I had the vaccine, I won't protect one other person, just the one and that would be me. We will not vaccinate our way out of this virus, it will kill itself early next year in the UK. A joint effort means what in your eyes? The government lying to us and the people falling for it or the government telling the truth and people listening? There's a vast difference between the two.

So in your limited view, none of us should have accepted the jab and we instead have been prepared to put up with the NHS being overcome, people seriously ill on the streets, plus a high death toll?

[MSS]

Originally Posted by wraymond

The basic problem in all this is the manufactured hyperbole from our rulers, desperate to fortify their privileged existence. Heaven knows what we are going to have to pay for their vanity and absolute belief in their own excellence.

That, in addition to protect trade with a certain far eastern soulless prisoner nation who now hold large parts of this country in their grasp through fixed smiles and obsequious patronising bowing. Hence the outright closing down of the infamous Wuhan theory. Oh, has everybody forgotten that? It's politics stupid.

Wraymond, I have just realised that we are very much alike. The difference being that I have accepted and revel in my status as a peasant underdog, whereas you, despite your wisdom, still feel that things should be better.

If you just accept how life is, rather than how it should be, there is a whole world of positivity and happiness to be experienced.

How interesting!

[Saga Lout]

Originally Posted by HarryM1BYT

So in your limited view, none of us should have accepted the jab and we instead have been prepared to put up with the NHS being overcome, people seriously ill on the streets, plus a high death toll?

I don't have a limited view, it's what sets me apart from many because I can reason things out. I've told everyone I meet that if you haven't had the virus you must get the vaccines, as poor as they are. I don't need the vaccines, nor does anyone that has had the virus and recovered, they have all the protection they need. I'll have the same protection next year without the vaccines, you'll be on your sixth jab by this time next year.

[Saga Lout]

Originally Posted by MSS

Wraymond, I have just realised that we are very much alike. The difference being that I have accepted and revel in my status as a peasant underdog, whereas you, despite your wisdom, still feel that things should be better.

If you just accept how life is, rather than how it should be, there is a whole world of positivity and happiness to be experienced.

How interesting!

No-one is an underdog, every dog is a dog that is waiting for his day. This is not a Green and peasant land, even if we do drive a Rover...

[wraymond]

Originally Posted by MSS

Wraymond, I have just realised that we are very much alike. The difference being that I have accepted and revel in my status as a peasant underdog, whereas you, despite your wisdom, still feel that things should be better.

If you just accept how life is, rather than how it should be, there is a whole world of positivity and happiness to be experienced.

How interesting!

I confess, I am a prisoner still, after retiring from nearly fifty years in business -all of which was selling in one form or another. Nothing is ever enough, there is always another triumph awaiting and another positive outlook to enjoy. Eternally optimistic and totally without prejudice. Except concerning politicians. Surprise, surprise.

[HarryM1BYT]

Originally Posted by wraymond

The basic problem in all this is the manufactured hyperbole from our rulers, desperate to fortify their privileged existence. Heaven knows what we are going to have to pay for their vanity and absolute belief in their own excellence.

That, in addition to protect trade with a certain far eastern soulless prisoner nation who now hold large parts of this country in their grasp through fixed smiles and obsequious patronising bowing. Hence the outright closing down of the infamous Wuhan theory. Oh, has everybody forgotten that? It's politics stupid.

Would that no involve a world wide collusion involving all world leaders and all those involved with medical research around the world?


Seems a bit far fetched that they could possibly get away with it for so long..

[wraymond]

Seriously Harry? You believe world wide leaders do not collude, deceive or conspire? If I may say, you have always come across as well read, astute and eminently sensible! Certainly not naive. Wow.

Shall I give you an alphabetical list of world leaders whose words are highly suspect and even rubbish? What about a list of our own home grown scientists and health ‘experts’ who are now defrocked as charlatans? And of course, some who just got things wrong due to peer or senior pressure. Of course, I won’t – not on a public platform anyway. Amazing.

[HarryM1BYT]

Originally Posted by wraymond

Seriously Harry? You believe world wide leaders do not collude, deceive or conspire? If I may say, you have always come across as well read, astute and eminently sensible! Certainly not naive. Wow.

Shall I give you an alphabetical list of world leaders whose words are highly suspect and even rubbish? What about a list of our own home grown scientists and health ‘experts’ who are now defrocked as charlatans? And of course, some who just got things wrong due to peer or senior pressure. Of course, I won’t – not on a public platform anyway. Amazing.

Of course there is some collusion, but certainly not the world wide collusion as you seem to be suggesting. I am not naive far from, but your attempts to defend your position by claiming such a wide ranging collusion are the stuff of conspiracy theories, rather than that of the real world.


Yes of course world leaders are suspect, they are human and right or wrong we voted them in (some of them) to run their respective countries. Anyone who actually wanted to be a politician, I would be highly suspicious of their motives, but we are where we are, until someone comes up with a better system.

[HarryM1BYT]

Originally Posted by wraymond

Seriously Harry? You believe world wide leaders do not collude, deceive or conspire? If I may say, you have always come across as well read, astute and eminently sensible! Certainly not naive. Wow.

Shall I give you an alphabetical list of world leaders whose words are highly suspect and even rubbish? What about a list of our own home grown scientists and health ‘experts’ who are now defrocked as charlatans? And of course, some who just got things wrong due to peer or senior pressure. Of course, I won’t – not on a public platform anyway. Amazing.

Of course there is some collusion, but certainly not the world wide collusion as you seem to be suggesting. I am not naive far from, but your attempts to defend your position by claiming such a wide ranging collusion are the stuff of conspiracy theories, rather than that of the real world.


Yes of course world leaders are suspect, they are human and right or wrong we voted them in (some of them) to run their respective countries. Anyone who actually wanted to be a politician, I would be highly suspicious of their motives, but we are where we are, until someone comes up with a better system.

[Arctic]

The end is nigh surely.