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Old 20th November 2021, 10:13   #21
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This cannot happen for the majority because a private pension is nothing more than a long-term savings scheme where the pension funds are invested in the stock market. The majority of people do not earn enough to save a large enough pension pot from which to draw a pension over an extended period. My own feeling is that the top 20% or so of the working population will be able to retire early, as they can now, but the majority will end up working until the age of 70ish.

I just hope we don't end up with the Russian system where I believe the pensionable age is higher than the average life!

oh god I hope no recommends that last line to one of the political parties.

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Old 20th November 2021, 11:04   #22
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i have read, but cannot say for sure if it is true or not, that from a class of 40 young pupils at infant school, that only 8-10 children actually reach retirement age. apparently down to numerous reasons which include .. disease, ill health heart/stroke etc. accidents at work or home or domestic. car accidents. suicides, drugs,alchohol abuse, murders, killed in wars etc etc .. the list goes on. most of these people never receive any state pension at all. so many elderly have died during covid the pension burden cost must be reduced dramatically, but still they want to reduce an already poorest paid pension in europe. the other thing that also is unbalanced is that companies are unfair to pay x number of pounds to high salary earners monthly and very small amounts to those on low wages who have had little but no chance to either save or pay large amounts monthly into pension pots. is that equality ? in france they retire with decent pensions at 61 yrs of age. im not a political animal but things need to be adressed somewhat. i pay my subs on here , never missed a payment. the way i look at it , is that the club saves me money. and of course keeps my pride and joy on the road. ...
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Old 20th November 2021, 11:32   #23
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Hi Ian. I don't think I'm knowledgeable enough about the Club to give specifics, I would be prepared to leave that to those better placed.
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I was really just pointing out the incredible and vast amount of expert advice and solutions available at such a small price. I know that helping each other out is what the Club is about and there are numerous examples in many threads. I've been really impressed by the amount of parts you've supplied f.o.c from your donor car. But I digress. I wouldn't mind paying a bit more.
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Personally i think £10 to pay if you want to is enough, because any information you gain from these threads or posts on here you can also get from other places for free, and remember added by members not the club it's self.

So it's the members that make the club, not the club that make the members, quite a lot of members whom do not subscribe add a lot of great knowledge to the threads as well as those who subscribe.

The subs are a personal choice and that is the way it should be, where the subs go as been talked about for ever and 99.9% of the time ends up with members arguing with each other, or members getting banned.

What i will say if the price was to rise i would not subscribe, i also post all my photos and threads on other forums which are free, so as above all the knowledge is out there.

As you may know we hold Nano meets which are free to attend, also free to join the forum, there is a donation box which is hung up ever meet, to which you are free to donate, if not then not a problem, the money is always put back into the meets either buy purchasing tents, or sometimes to pay for venues which would want payment, tools that would help all at the meet, petrol to the generator and so on, but it must benefit those that attend not individuals.
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Old 20th November 2021, 16:23   #24
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For all the support, help and friendship £10 is cheap.
Personally if it were up to me there would be no free membership - everyone should pay.
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Old 20th November 2021, 17:07   #25
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Old 20th November 2021, 18:26   #26
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Thanks Arctic. Good point well made. As I said , I don't know enough about how the Club operates. I will use the donate button as previously suggested by others.
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Old 20th November 2021, 18:31   #27
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For all the support, help and friendship £10 is cheap.
Personally if it were up to me there would be no free membership - everyone should pay.

I have said the same a number of times over the years. I would allow say 3 months free membership for newcomers to taste the offering and then the subscription would apply.

We could have a separate politics section with a £100 annual free perhaps?
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Old 21st November 2021, 18:55   #28
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For all the support, help and friendship £10 is cheap.
Personally if it were up to me there would be no free membership - everyone should pay.

Have been a subscribed member for a wee while now and subs due near the end of the month. Will be renewing subscription as I believe it is money well spent- but on what?

As Steve has said- most of the knowledge is offered by members.
I understand that the club groups all this knowledge and these members together through the forum but as a casual "forumite" I don't see the what else the club "does".

You were, Simon, until recently a moderator and so I assume have a better understanding of how the club operates and what it "does". I would appreciate a better understanding of what the club does and how it operates if you feel able to give me the benefit of your experience.
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Old 21st November 2021, 19:31   #29
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I've always paid the annual subscriptions up until this year and have been involved in organising regional meets which have been very successful and have made some great friends also had great advice at these get togethers not once have I or other members who have organised meets representing the club had any support encouragement or thankyou from the top we still have our get togethers without the input of the club so I chose not to pay the subscription I do enjoy browsing through the forum but I've found myself less and less getting involved in any threads maybe some inventiveness from the top would give me the incentive to pay again but for now I'm quite happy been blue

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Old 21st November 2021, 20:16   #30
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I've always paid the annual subscriptions up until this year and have been involved in organising regional meets which have been very successful and have made some great friends also had great advice at these get togethers not once have I or other members who have organised meets representing the club had any support encouragement or thankyou from the top we still have our get togethers without the input of the club so I chose not to pay the subscription I do enjoy browsing through the forum but I've found myself less and less getting involved in any threads maybe some inventiveness from the top would give me the incentive to pay again but for now I'm quite happy been blue

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Hi Richard
One of the reasons I made the original post was reading about the meets at DaveLincs and others. I was surprised to learn they were not supported by the Club in any way. If you are going to continue with them is there anywhere the details will be available as most seemed to be fairly close and I would be interested in meeting up. Can't beat a good meal and chat.

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