Starter motor gone?

Per75 · 29th June 2022, 09:57

On battery alone the starter motor only clicks. Using jumper cables it howls in a strained way but engine does not turn. Any pointers?

I am going to try to tow-start later today just to ensure engine goes round and fires.

bl52krz · 29th June 2022, 10:57

If you definitely know the starter is turning, then it could be the battery has not got enough charge to throw the starter gear on the end of the shaft to engage The flywheel. On the other hand, it may be the two copper contacts have worn out inside the starter. You can get these on the Internet quiet cheaply. Artic may be along to show you what to do shortly. If you join the club membership, you can access what to do about a non working starter motor. There are many examples of repairing them. Good luck.

Per75 · 29th June 2022, 11:49

Ok, I removed the cambelt cover and ran on the starter. The accessory belts rotate so the crankshaft does as well. The cam belt is nice and tight, but does not move

So a damaged or missing woodruf key or similar is the most likely cause. And of course head and valves are toast

SD1too · 29th June 2022, 14:50

Hello Per,

I don't have a 1.8T but from the diagrams in the manual there doesn't appear to be a Woodruff key. The timing belt gear wheel seems to be located on the crankshaft by means of a groove and a projection.

I'm struggling to think of an explanation for how the ancillary belts pulley can rotate but not the timing belt gear.

Hopefully a 1.8 expert will be along to help.

Simon

dave lincs · 29th June 2022, 17:04

Sounds like your timing belt has stripped some teeth off it which are now on the crank pulley at the bottom

Per75 · 29th June 2022, 21:22

Hmmmmm, that may be it I suppose. Strange though, the belt is not all that old.

Mike Noc · 30th June 2022, 05:40

Yep sounds like the cause - what make of belt is it?

29th June 2022, 09:57	#1
Per75 Newbie Rover 75 saloon Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Kolsås Posts: 23 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Starter motor gone? On battery alone the starter motor only clicks. Using jumper cables it howls in a strained way but engine does not turn. Any pointers? I am going to try to tow-start later today just to ensure engine goes round and fires.

29th June 2022, 10:57	#2
bl52krz This is my second home Rover 75 cdt club + Rover 2.5 KV6 Conni SE Join Date: May 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 11,396 Thanks: 6,587 Thanked 2,262 Times in 1,729 Posts	If you definitely know the starter is turning, then it could be the battery has not got enough charge to throw the starter gear on the end of the shaft to engage The flywheel. On the other hand, it may be the two copper contacts have worn out inside the starter. You can get these on the Internet quiet cheaply. Artic may be along to show you what to do shortly. If you join the club membership, you can access what to do about a non working starter motor. There are many examples of repairing them. Good luck. __________________ Great Barr, Birmingham. Last edited by bl52krz; 29th June 2022 at 11:01..

29th June 2022, 11:49	#3
Per75 Newbie Rover 75 saloon Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Kolsås Posts: 23 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Ouch! Ok, I removed the cambelt cover and ran on the starter. The accessory belts rotate so the crankshaft does as well. The cam belt is nice and tight, but does not move So a damaged or missing woodruf key or similar is the most likely cause. And of course head and valves are toast

29th June 2022, 14:50	#4
SD1too Doesn't do things by halves Rover 75 2.5 Connoisseur Auto (1999) Dealer launch model. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Former Middlesex Posts: 20,394 Thanks: 1,587 Thanked 3,749 Times in 3,181 Posts	Hello Per, I don't have a 1.8T but from the diagrams in the manual there doesn't appear to be a Woodruff key. The timing belt gear wheel seems to be located on the crankshaft by means of a groove and a projection. I'm struggling to think of an explanation for how the ancillary belts pulley can rotate but not the timing belt gear. Hopefully a 1.8 expert will be along to help. Simon __________________ "Whatever is rightly done, however humble, is noble." Sir Henry Royce.

29th June 2022, 17:04	#5
dave lincs Posted a thing or two Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Louth Posts: 1,421 Thanks: 380 Thanked 986 Times in 476 Posts	Sounds like your timing belt has stripped some teeth off it which are now on the crank pulley at the bottom

29th June 2022, 21:22	#6
Per75 Newbie Rover 75 saloon Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Kolsås Posts: 23 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Hmmmmm, that may be it I suppose. Strange though, the belt is not all that old.

30th June 2022, 05:40	#7
Mike Noc This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Manual Connoisseur SE, Rover 75 CDT Automatic Connoisseur SE & a Freelander Td4. Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,551 Thanks: 3,470 Thanked 3,119 Times in 2,247 Posts	Yep sounds like the cause - what make of belt is it?