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Old 14th August 2019, 11:02   #1
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Yesterday I had 4 Avon ZV7 215/55/16 W fitted and supplied by
Formula 1 tyres in Southampton, price was good, service excellent and they used a torque wrench, not just the air gun.
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Old 14th August 2019, 12:05   #2
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Had the same tyres fitted a month ago. Can't fault them. There are some good deals out there if you search a bit.

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Old 14th August 2019, 12:21   #3
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Yesterday I had 4 Avon ZV7 215/55/16 W fitted and supplied by
Formula 1 tyres in Southampton, price was good, service excellent and they used a torque wrench, not just the air gun.
Be interesting to know their overall fitting cost for comparison.

Most of the family's cars I have fitted UNIROYAL Rainsport 2s, and more recently Rainsport 3s in the past ten years. I did have Avons on my 620 Diesel years ago fitted with Vitesse 17" wheels. I think the Vitesse wheels played a large part in the improved handling and steering as well as the Tyres. As in post #2, always shop around.

In the temperate UK, raining heavily as I type this, wet weather "grippyness" is a must on all my means of getting about. Rainsports do indeed do what it "says on the tin". Here the late, great Professor Stanley Unwin explains "grippyness" during times of precipitation quite clearly....

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Old 14th August 2019, 13:21   #4
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When I bought my ZT-T the car was fitted with Avon ZV5 tyres. They weren't completely awful, but really didn't inspire much confidence, especially in the wet - very much an average tyre. First thing I did was to replace them. I've since used various other brands, but most recently had Avon ZZ5 tyres fitted to the rear axle. Those are great tyres, very grippy and hugely different to the old ZV5 tyres. Even within the same brand, the tyre models can vary hugely.
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I very recently had to have a full set of Avon ZV7s returned under warrantee for cracking between the treads. All 4 had failed, they were supplied a month apart in pairs from different retailers. One a local garage the second pair Black Circles. They had covered only about 3000 miles.

I contacted the manufacturers of Avon tyres and spoke to them personally and they were well aware of the problem. They told me that under EU rules they (and others) had had to change the formula of the rubber and this has caused this fault. They hope that now it has been sorted but said the problem does not arise immediately but can take three years and longer to show. The tyres he said are guaranteed for 6 years so high mileage users will probably not have a problem but low millage second cars etc are more likely to run into the problem. They wanted the tyres sent back for examination and then a refund will be made calculated on the wear. The tyres from the garage have gone back and I am waiting for the report and refund. Those from Black Circles probably haven't as the fitters of the replacements said Black Circles haven't asked for them to be returned. They offered a poor refund initially but after negotiation re offered an acceptable amount so they have by-passed the tyre manufacturers code of practice and as the retailer refunded themselves.

Before changing the tyres I had felt the braking was not as good as it had been and recently having fitted new pads discs etc considered a fluid change but since replacing the tyres the braking is as it was.

In the end considering the manufacturers statement that they thought they had fixed it but couldn't be confident for at least three years, I changed to Kumho which have similar ratings and around the same price but do seem better in feel and grip.

If you do have them fitted now or are considering them I suggest you bare this in mind and keep a good check on them.
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Be interesting to know their overall fitting cost for comparison.

Most of the family's cars I have fitted UNIROYAL Rainsport 2s, and more recently Rainsport 3s in the past ten years. I did have Avons on my 620 Diesel years ago fitted with Vitesse 17" wheels. I think the Vitesse wheels played a large part in the improved handling and steering as well as the Tyres. As in post #2, always shop around.

In the temperate UK, raining heavily as I type this, wet weather "grippyness" is a must on all my means of getting about. Rainsports do indeed do what it "says on the tin". Here the late, great Professor Stanley Unwin explains "grippyness" during times of precipitation quite clearly....

£65.53 each, supplied and fitted
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£65.53 each, supplied and fitted
Thanks. That does sound good value.

My 18" Rainsport 3s were a little more than that. Money well spent AND it is still raining. I have to travel up to the far north of the county to collect an MGF Fuel Pump from my son who has it there with in-laws.

Hope the weather clears up later. Rain really makes journeys less enjoyable for me. Off to pray to the Rain Gods ..

Back in my regular powered two wheeler riding days, AVONs were always a first tyre choice. The Yokohamas fitted to my new Honda were shall we say, less than satisfactory. Long time ago now though. Plus AVON supported Motor Sport which is always a brand worth going with for that reason. Used CASTROL Oils for that same reason. Good enough for Hailwood's Honda Six fabulous GP machine, good enough for my cars and bikes. What a bike... sight and sound.

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New Car Tyre issues. The Dunlops fitted to the family's second car, a new MG Metro bought in 1983, threw away their treads at motorway speeds one after the other all four within a year or so of purchasing the car new. The four manufacturer replacements did the same. Obviously some manufacturing fault. Changing a wheel ( back in the days of FULL SPARE alloys wheels, none of your space saver mullarkey ) was no fun at all on the hard shoulder ... in the rain. I replaced all four with GOODYEARs who support premier Motor Sports at the time. No further issues.
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Avon was at one point the original fitting for all new Aston Martin cars. Premium tyre 30 and 40 years ago.
Unfortunately many old names were bought up by other manufacturers and standards dropped thereby tarnishing previously top brands, not just tyres.
Iíll be replacing my new Avon tyres late October with my set of winter tyres on different alloys. The downside of course is that all the tyres will age before they wear out. I just donít do many miles in the 75.
I see threads appearing annually about tyre condition and so they should too.
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