Dont Use Your Mobile Even When Stationary. - Page 8

ceedy · 7th February 2010, 11:46

Coo, hope they don't ban sneezing ? .

If I get a fit of nose action it can go on for quite some while ..

so @ 70mph, 103fps, approx 1 sneeze every 10 seconds..

2 min sneeze fit = about 1 mile with my eyes shut !!

carlpenn · 24th March 2010, 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules

Funny isn't it why it's not an offence to target Smokers while driving because the Government would loose so much revenue.

Smokers are not getting away with it - in fact there is currently a group of Doctors trying to get Smoking in Cars banned, and so they should. I am a Smoker and do not smoke in my Car for many reasons - mostly my Kids health.

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.a...ntid=152729669

FredSpencer · 24th March 2010, 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlpenn

Smokers are not getting away with it - in fact there is currently a group of Doctors trying to get Smoking in Cars banned, and so they should. I am a Smoker and do not smoke in my Car for many reasons - mostly my Kids health.

http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/articles.a...ntid=152729669

Tosh and piffle!

para999 · 28th March 2010, 21:10

[quote=FredSpencer;493547]Tosh and piffle!

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I love smokers....they keep me gainfully employed!!!!!!!!! God I wish my daughter didn't smoke though, but at least she does it outside and never in the car!

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FredSpencer · 28th March 2010, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by para999

I love smokers....they keep me gainfully employed!!!!!!!!! God I wish my daughter didn't smoke though, but at least she does it outside and never in the car!

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We keep a lot of people in jobs through our selfless sacrifice. Not to mention all the extra tax we pay so that others don't have to pay so much.

uk_dave&gill · 7th April 2010, 16:03

I'm not a smoker, but have no issue with others smoking - it's their choice

I guess this idea of banning smoking in cars is to make sure that those that don't have the choice (ie kids in cars) aren't forced to "indulge". But what if you smoke, it's your car and you don't have any kids? Why should you then be stopped from doing as you please in your own car?

N1&EPR · 17th May 2010, 23:48

Scary stuff, all this health and safety.

Can't believe they don't let me use a phone when the car is stationary in a layby, and yet I can fly an aircraft, in total darkness and in cloud, soley by reference to instruments, talk on a radio, write down clearances and change frequencies, all with passengers on board.

Getting to be an odd place to live the U.K. indeed.

Dragrad · 18th May 2010, 00:13

I'm a smoker, I am alone in the car 99% of the time. And I smoke in my car, windows open. If I have non- smokers in the car, I do not smoke, although there might be some wayside stops on the way!!

If they ban me from smoking in my own vehicle, in my own space, in my private vehicle, then that's the national meetings out of the window. Smoking is voluntary euthanasia, and I have the right to do so!!

The Government wants my tax £'s for my choice of smoking. They want me to stop and lose the revenue? Or do they want the revenue from fining people who smoke in their own cars instead? Or both?

If they want to ban smoking, then they should do it, not piecemeal..... But if they do ban it, they would lose £m in revenue.....

Next they will ban smoking in your own house!!

Even if you live alone!!

Rant over.... Time for the common sense people to rise and start "democracy" again...

I know... common sense is not to smoke...... but see my earlier sentence

Now where is that wooden spoon??

Bernard LPG · 18th May 2010, 11:33

Andrew, you'd better come over here and live in Spain. I'm sitting in a cafe at the moment and there are people smoking around me.

Can't say that I'm too happy about it, being a non-smoker myself, but I think that I favour the freedom to do what you want more. After all I don't have to be in here, it is very well ventilated and I could go outside but there is no air-con out there.
No, we are going too far in the UK.

Oh! And about the voluntary euthanasia bit: my Grandfather smoked 60 a day from the age of 15 till he died at 92. I wonder what age he would have made had he not smoked? There's no logic in it.

djw40 · 26th May 2010, 17:37

With regards to being reported for driving without due care due for smoking, I would certainly say this is fair enough if it has been a contributory factor in an accident or near-miss, such as looking out side window and said cigarette.
To get reported for just smoking whilst driving is in my opinion excessive.

With regards the original phone incident, yes it seems the police officer was over zealous in the extreme, but..........

(I might give away my job here!!)

Bearing in mind the huge number of police officers in this country there are bound to be some who are officious, arrogant, rude etc etc. Unfortunately it is these officers that usually get talked about.

As old bill the most powerful tool we have is discretion. As other posts state we make mistakes too and I will always lean on the side of discretion if I believe someone has made a genuine mistake rather than attempt a dangerous manouver.

Also please consider that the officer in question may have just come from, or recently dealt with a fatal involving a driver using a mobile.

Anybody who blatantly uses a mobile phone whilst (actually) driving or speeds excessively - I offer you the "opportunity" of coming out with me when I have the misfortune of dealing with a fatal, and more importantly completing the worst task of my job, the knock on the door.
I remember every one like it was yesterday.

Please note my rant is not aimed at anyone in particular, but I do feel the need to stick up for Traffic Officers as a whole.

We are not there to raise monies for the government etc etc - we apply the Law in the way they allow us to and hopefully let the Law abiding citizen enjoy his use of the road.

7th February 2010, 11:46	#71
ceedy This is my second home All Trophy Blue ,ZT260#50 , ZT CDTI Auto, ZR105+ and 1.8T Firefrost spoiling the Set . Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nr Sherborne But in Somerset.. Posts: 6,084 Thanks: 916 Thanked 1,214 Times in 768 Posts	Coo, hope they don't ban sneezing ? . If I get a fit of nose action it can go on for quite some while .. so @ 70mph, 103fps, approx 1 sneeze every 10 seconds.. 2 min sneeze fit = about 1 mile with my eyes shut !! __________________ The Three Bloo's Wifey's Zr105, MY CDTI & 260 #50 and Number One sons 1.8T in Firefrost When I were a lad Zero to 142 in 10.25 secs at the Pod on my Blown Norton. 210 Kart Champ in 70's

7th April 2010, 16:03	#76
uk_dave&gill This is my second home .. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Town Posts: 4,166 Thanks: 1 Thanked 189 Times in 105 Posts	I'm not a smoker, but have no issue with others smoking - it's their choice I guess this idea of banning smoking in cars is to make sure that those that don't have the choice (ie kids in cars) aren't forced to "indulge". But what if you smoke, it's your car and you don't have any kids? Why should you then be stopped from doing as you please in your own car? __________________ Dave

18th May 2010, 00:13	#78
Dragrad This is my second home *None DROWNED** Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cardigan Posts: 33,339 Thanks: 1,257 Thanked 1,664 Times in 1,081 Posts	I'm a smoker, I am alone in the car 99% of the time. And I smoke in my car, windows open. If I have non- smokers in the car, I do not smoke, although there might be some wayside stops on the way!! If they ban me from smoking in my own vehicle, in my own space, in my private vehicle, then that's the national meetings out of the window. Smoking is voluntary euthanasia, and I have the right to do so!! The Government wants my tax £'s for my choice of smoking. They want me to stop and lose the revenue? Or do they want the revenue from fining people who smoke in their own cars instead? Or both? If they want to ban smoking, then they should do it, not piecemeal..... But if they do ban it, they would lose £m in revenue..... Next they will ban smoking in your own house!! Even if you live alone!! Rant over.... Time for the common sense people to rise and start "democracy" again... I know... common sense is not to smoke...... but see my earlier sentence Now where is that wooden spoon?? __________________ Andrew Ich Dien Problem solving is... lateral thinking SEARCH FIRST ...ASK LATER... Last edited by Dragrad; 18th May 2010 at 00:20..

18th May 2010, 11:33	#79
Bernard LPG I really should get out more....... 75 V6 Saloon 2003 LPG MGZT V8 260 LPG Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Evesham Posts: 2,134 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Andrew, you'd better come over here and live in Spain. I'm sitting in a cafe at the moment and there are people smoking around me. Can't say that I'm too happy about it, being a non-smoker myself, but I think that I favour the freedom to do what you want more. After all I don't have to be in here, it is very well ventilated and I could go outside but there is no air-con out there. No, we are going too far in the UK. Oh! And about the voluntary euthanasia bit: my Grandfather smoked 60 a day from the age of 15 till he died at 92. I wonder what age he would have made had he not smoked? There's no logic in it. Last edited by Bernard LPG; 18th May 2010 at 11:36.. Reason: afterthought

28th March 2010, 21:10	#74
para999 Avid contributor Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wakefield Posts: 135 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	[quote=FredSpencer;493547]Tosh and piffle! [ I love smokers....they keep me gainfully employed!!!!!!!!! God I wish my daughter didn't smoke though, but at least she does it outside and never in the car! ]

17th May 2010, 23:48	#77
N1&EPR Avid contributor MG ZT-T Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Glasgow Posts: 210 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Scary stuff, all this health and safety. Can't believe they don't let me use a phone when the car is stationary in a layby, and yet I can fly an aircraft, in total darkness and in cloud, soley by reference to instruments, talk on a radio, write down clearances and change frequencies, all with passengers on board. Getting to be an odd place to live the U.K. indeed.

26th May 2010, 17:37	#80
djw40 Gets stuck in Ford Kuga Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tatworth, Somerset Posts: 734 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	With regards to being reported for driving without due care due for smoking, I would certainly say this is fair enough if it has been a contributory factor in an accident or near-miss, such as looking out side window and said cigarette. To get reported for just smoking whilst driving is in my opinion excessive. With regards the original phone incident, yes it seems the police officer was over zealous in the extreme, but.......... (I might give away my job here!!) Bearing in mind the huge number of police officers in this country there are bound to be some who are officious, arrogant, rude etc etc. Unfortunately it is these officers that usually get talked about. As old bill the most powerful tool we have is discretion. As other posts state we make mistakes too and I will always lean on the side of discretion if I believe someone has made a genuine mistake rather than attempt a dangerous manouver. Also please consider that the officer in question may have just come from, or recently dealt with a fatal involving a driver using a mobile. Anybody who blatantly uses a mobile phone whilst (actually) driving or speeds excessively - I offer you the "opportunity" of coming out with me when I have the misfortune of dealing with a fatal, and more importantly completing the worst task of my job, the knock on the door. I remember every one like it was yesterday. Please note my rant is not aimed at anyone in particular, but I do feel the need to stick up for Traffic Officers as a whole. We are not there to raise monies for the government etc etc - we apply the Law in the way they allow us to and hopefully let the Law abiding citizen enjoy his use of the road.