Mk3 Nav fail

2.2-600-vtec · 4th November 2014, 21:08

HI, i have a bmw mk3 nav drive in my ztt,
now i suspect it may be dead but i would like to think im wrong,

basiclly it worked fine but i got a update disc and put that into the drive, after a while i didnt think anything was happening, the red power light was solid red all the time i left it a fair while and the light never went out so i pulled the plug, since then i dont have the power light on, it will take the update disc and you hear the drive run up make a few noises then repeat a few times and then eject the disc,
now i tried the key cd that i got at the same time and when i insert that the drive sounds like it is spooling up the disc and reading it as it runs alot longer and then gently slows down and ejects the disc as though it has done its job,

could i just have a very poor update disc?
is there hope? or should i just give up and get another drive?

Thanks
Nathan

Schotten · 6th November 2014, 07:17

How long did you wait? When I updated mine last year I think it took over half an hour. Which software version were you running and what were you upgrading to?

Canonite · 6th November 2014, 08:07

It may have bricked it, apparently it can take ages and look like its doing nothing.

Unplugging it may have killed it.
If so ive got both a BMW and Rover Mk3 drives ive just removed from my cars.

2.2-600-vtec · 6th November 2014, 18:04

I waited a while but since realised I didn't start it off correctly so that might have done it.

Not sure what it was running but tries v32 with post code setup.

I am not overly worried about it not working as I paid peanuts for the whole setup,

What's the cost of replacment though?

ZedTeeTee · 7th November 2014, 14:20

With the right disc, more importantly burnt correctly, it maybe possible to rescue the drive. I've recovered a couple of these which were thought to be goosed - same symptoms.

2.2-600-vtec · 8th November 2014, 06:53

Yeah I have heard about having the right disc burnt correctly, I cannot burn less than 10x so not good, any ideas?

Phil-T4 · 8th November 2014, 08:57

You maybe ok at 10x its more important to be a Mode2 CD.
My drive has a minimum of 8x and has burnt them ok.

2.2-600-vtec · 8th November 2014, 13:50

I thought mine was mode 2 I could be wrong will check later, do you have a tested and working file maybe? I used a BMW one

ZedTeeTee · 9th November 2014, 15:10

Yeah, slow speed is ok, but as I understand it, it has to be a MODE2 FORM1 CD (I had a little saga earlier this year).

I use Imageburn to burn the image downloaded from the net and it worked a treat. I can always pop you a cd in the post, or if you get really desperate, send me your nav drive and I'll try myself.

2.2-600-vtec · 11th November 2014, 18:24

Thanks for the offer, I will try another burn from another computer and see how we go

4th November 2014, 21:08	#1
2.2-600-vtec Loves to post mg ztt Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Exeter Posts: 328 Thanks: 2 Thanked 37 Times in 35 Posts	Mk3 Nav fail HI, i have a bmw mk3 nav drive in my ztt, now i suspect it may be dead but i would like to think im wrong, basiclly it worked fine but i got a update disc and put that into the drive, after a while i didnt think anything was happening, the red power light was solid red all the time i left it a fair while and the light never went out so i pulled the plug, since then i dont have the power light on, it will take the update disc and you hear the drive run up make a few noises then repeat a few times and then eject the disc, now i tried the key cd that i got at the same time and when i insert that the drive sounds like it is spooling up the disc and reading it as it runs alot longer and then gently slows down and ejects the disc as though it has done its job, could i just have a very poor update disc? is there hope? or should i just give up and get another drive? Thanks Nathan

6th November 2014, 07:17	#2
Schotten Loves to post 75 Saloon Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Glasgow Posts: 332 Thanks: 8 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	How long did you wait? When I updated mine last year I think it took over half an hour. Which software version were you running and what were you upgrading to?

6th November 2014, 08:07	#3
Canonite This is my second home BMW 330d Tourer, MG ZT 180 SE XPG, VW Polo 6R 1.2 TDI Bluemotion Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: York Posts: 6,022 Thanks: 363 Thanked 574 Times in 319 Posts	It may have bricked it, apparently it can take ages and look like its doing nothing. Unplugging it may have killed it. If so ive got both a BMW and Rover Mk3 drives ive just removed from my cars.

6th November 2014, 18:04	#4
2.2-600-vtec Loves to post mg ztt Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Exeter Posts: 328 Thanks: 2 Thanked 37 Times in 35 Posts	I waited a while but since realised I didn't start it off correctly so that might have done it. Not sure what it was running but tries v32 with post code setup. I am not overly worried about it not working as I paid peanuts for the whole setup, What's the cost of replacment though?

7th November 2014, 14:20	#5
ZedTeeTee This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stanley Posts: 3,334 Thanks: 240 Thanked 303 Times in 172 Posts	With the right disc, *more importantly burnt correctly*, it maybe possible to rescue the drive. I've recovered a couple of these which were thought to be goosed - same symptoms.

8th November 2014, 06:53	#6
2.2-600-vtec Loves to post mg ztt Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Exeter Posts: 328 Thanks: 2 Thanked 37 Times in 35 Posts	Yeah I have heard about having the right disc burnt correctly, I cannot burn less than 10x so not good, any ideas?

8th November 2014, 08:57	#7
Phil-T4 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T, Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Olney Posts: 2,969 Thanks: 245 Thanked 1,088 Times in 657 Posts	You maybe ok at 10x its more important to be a Mode2 CD. My drive has a minimum of 8x and has burnt them ok.

8th November 2014, 13:50	#8
2.2-600-vtec Loves to post mg ztt Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Exeter Posts: 328 Thanks: 2 Thanked 37 Times in 35 Posts	I thought mine was mode 2 I could be wrong will check later, do you have a tested and working file maybe? I used a BMW one

9th November 2014, 15:10	#9
ZedTeeTee This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stanley Posts: 3,334 Thanks: 240 Thanked 303 Times in 172 Posts	Yeah, slow speed is ok, but as I understand it, it has to be a MODE2 FORM1 CD (I had a little saga earlier this year). I use Imageburn to burn the image downloaded from the net and it worked a treat. I can always pop you a cd in the post, or if you get really desperate, send me your nav drive and I'll try myself.

11th November 2014, 18:24	#10
2.2-600-vtec Loves to post mg ztt Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Exeter Posts: 328 Thanks: 2 Thanked 37 Times in 35 Posts	Thanks for the offer, I will try another burn from another computer and see how we go