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Old 22nd May 2008, 22:19   #1
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Hi,

As some of you know I broke down in Southampton on the day of the national meet. Well since then my poor old car has been to :
1. My local garage (ex-Rover staff)
2. X-part Service centre, Llandyssul, and now..
3. It's on its Way to Shorts' in Swansea (Specialist Auto electrical)

Not bad mileage without clocking it up!!

(Full story at http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...ad.php?t=20217 )

Something really wierd has happened to her, nobody has got an idea locally. So I've yet another week (at least) without my car).
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Old 22nd May 2008, 22:29   #2
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If they keep changing Parts the Way they are they would have rebuilt it!!

Do hope its sorted soon and you are back on the Road again.
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Old 23rd May 2008, 08:09   #3
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Hi ANDREW I feel so sorry for you One would have thought that the problem would have been sorted long ago hope that this does not put you off your 75
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Old 23rd May 2008, 08:35   #4
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Had I read this earlier I would have saved you 5 pages of waffle. (imo of course )

If nothing is showing up on T4 and there are no warning lights you are left with only two options.

High Pressure fuel regulator seal has shot through or your ECU capacitors have died in turn not firing the injectors because they are not holding a strong enough charge.

I have had EXACTLY the same problem as this but it was never documented here, it was on the 'other side'.

HP regulator will not show up on T4, only a BOSCH specialist can tell you if its pressure is low (as can only a BOSCH specialist diagnose the caps on the ECU).

If I'd seen this, I would have got your car from Beaulieu and taken it to a diesel specialist in Poole. That is what you need to do. It has to go to a BOSCH service specialist for their flow equipment.

Glow Plugs will never stop the car from starting (by car, I mean our cars or any modern derv), in fact, Renault no longer have them.

Cam and crank sensors could have been ruled out in seconds if anyone had tried some easystart.

If you spray easystart up the EGR intake and the car runs, it is more than likely the HP regulator seal is shot and/or you're suffering from injector leakback. If it was cam / crank, the car would stop again immediately (same with ECU caps). Only in severe cases of HP regulator failure would the easystart not work, however, its possible that this could be the cause of you coming to a sudden stop.

Hope you get it fixed and that you now have a few more ideas to throw in to the mix.

My next move would be undoubtedly to get the car to a Bosch service centre. My local 'X-****' dealer didn't even know how to use T4. Well, they did, but only one person did. Remember, training on this equipment is long gone and is reserved for the experienced which soon turns into chinese whispers. I had to tell them what menu to access to check for pressure.

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Old 23rd May 2008, 08:44   #5
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My sentiments entirely.... a specialist every time rather than main agents.
Good luck getting your car back

I wouldn't have thought capacitor failure would cause sudden engine shut down, more likely wouldn't start the next day after everything cooled down.

What miles has she done?
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Old 23rd May 2008, 08:56   #6
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Cam and crank sensors could have been ruled out in seconds if anyone had tried some easystart.

If you spray easystart up the EGR intake and the car runs, it is more than likely the HP regulator seal is shot and/or you're suffering from injector leakback. If it was cam / crank, the car would stop again immediately (same with ECU caps). Only in severe cases of HP regulator failure would the easystart not work, however, its possible that this could be the cause of you coming to a sudden stop.
I'm guessing the reference to 'heroin for cars' was to Easystart.
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Old 23rd May 2008, 09:02   #7
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I'm guessing the reference to 'heroin for cars' was to Easystart.
Ahh yes, see that now. Which is even more amusing as the AA told me exactly the same thing after plugging their laptop in.

(did the bulb test on injector 1).

Was still the regulator seal.

This will be the third diesel documented that I have seen with this problem although I know more exist. Poor show Bosch.
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Old 23rd May 2008, 20:21   #8
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This will be the third diesel documented that I have seen with this problem although I know more exist. Poor show Bosch.
Thanks for that and earlier post. I shall pass it onto the garage tomorrow, even though the car is no longer there and is now in Swansea. But the info is very relevant in the search for the cause of this "breakdown".


Thanks folks, very much appreciated :lol:
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Old 24th May 2008, 23:04   #9
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Thanks again folks. I've sent the relevant info to the two garages now dealing with the problem. with a bit of luck I'll get her back sometime this year

Guess any further up-grading will have to wait until after I pay this bill!!
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Old 30th May 2008, 20:50   #10
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Hi Folks!!

Guess what? Yup that's right, no car!!

BUT the "experts" in Swansea have found the fault(s). They've even managed to get the car running, albeit roughly.

The culprits seem to be the injectors - YES all 4!! Oh yeah, and maybe the fuel pump under the bonnet.

As a true blue Cardi....... this is going to hurt
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