Diesel not starting

BigJohn · 30th October 2018, 10:51

Hi, I’ve searched the Forum for a non starting issue with my friends 2002 ZT CDTi but can’t find a similar issue. I have copied below the symptoms he is experiencing

Having an intermittent issue with starting. I insert and turn key all lights come on and then turn key at which point everything goes dead, engine fails to turn over no noise what so ever everything is dead. Keep trying and eventually the engine engages. Has anyone experienced this problem?

The only thing I can think of is a dodgy earth from the starter motor. Any advice would be gratefully received as he loves the car but the other half wants rid and a nearly new car purchased instead

Thanks

John

Lee T · 30th October 2018, 11:16

Sounds like a battery terminal issue, check clean and refit battery connections. If not that check condition of the earth to body strap in front of the battery box and check the main wire to starter for tightness. Good luck. Lee.

bl52krz · 30th October 2018, 21:21

When you say the ‘engine engages’, do you mean it starts? If you mean that the starter engages,but the car does not start, then it could mean the battery is dead.

stevestrat · 30th October 2018, 21:45

Your friend needs to be wary of repeated attempts to start the car if the battery is dodgy, can throw the immobiliser chip in the key out of sync and render the key useless. Read this if you haven't already: https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...d.php?t=106447

simon.jane · 31st October 2018, 08:47

Where about's are you in Essex?

BigJohn · 31st October 2018, 13:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by bl52krz

When you say the ‘engine engages’, do you mean it starts? If you mean that the starter engages,but the car does not start, then it could mean the battery is dead.

Hi, by engages he means starts

BigJohn · 31st October 2018, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by simon.jane

Where about's are you in Essex?

Corringham which is 5 miles from Basildon, a mile off of the lovely A13

BigJohn · 31st October 2018, 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevestrat

Your friend needs to be wary of repeated attempts to start the car if the battery is dodgy, can throw the immobiliser chip in the key out of sync and render the key useless. Read this if you haven't already: https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...d.php?t=106447

Thank you, that is worrying reading.

I know when it first played up again recently (it had same issue a couple of times a year ago, but when it went into the local MGR specialist it didn't misbehave again and they couldn't find anything wrong) I know when the RAC came out, the battery had been flattened. I am seeing him tonight and will get the full details. The car has since restarted, would I be right in thinking that he was lucky and the immobiliser has not become unsynced ?

COLVERT · 2nd November 2018, 10:36

If it starts then the key is OK.

Tell your friend he must charge his battery for at least 24 hours.

If he has a charger that puts up a green light to say the battery is charged after only a few hours tell him to ignore it.

If the battery is flat and the green light comes up after just a few hours this normally indicates the battery is close to the end of its working life.

SD1too · 2nd November 2018, 14:07

Big John,

Have you fixed this? When you say "everything goes dead", does that include the warning lights which previously illuminated?

Simon

30th October 2018, 10:51	#1
BigJohn Gets stuck in Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Essex Posts: 609 Thanks: 518 Thanked 162 Times in 104 Posts	Diesel not starting Hi, I’ve searched the Forum for a non starting issue with my friends 2002 ZT CDTi but can’t find a similar issue. I have copied below the symptoms he is experiencing Having an intermittent issue with starting. I insert and turn key all lights come on and then turn key at which point everything goes dead, engine fails to turn over no noise what so ever everything is dead. Keep trying and eventually the engine engages. Has anyone experienced this problem? The only thing I can think of is a dodgy earth from the starter motor. Any advice would be gratefully received as he loves the car but the other half wants rid and a nearly new car purchased instead Thanks John

30th October 2018, 11:16	#2
Lee T Gets stuck in MG ZT Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Liverpool Posts: 857 Thanks: 180 Thanked 248 Times in 189 Posts	Sounds like a battery terminal issue, check clean and refit battery connections. If not that check condition of the earth to body strap in front of the battery box and check the main wire to starter for tightness. Good luck. Lee. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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COLVERT This is my second home R75 Saloon. Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: France/or Devon. Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 3,851 Thanked 2,167 Times in 1,816 Posts	If it starts then the key is OK. Tell your friend he must charge his battery for at least 24 hours. If he has a charger that puts up a green light to say the battery is charged after only a few hours tell him to ignore it. If the battery is flat and the green light comes up after just a few hours this normally indicates the battery is close to the end of its working life.

2nd November 2018, 14:07	#10
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