HGF 1.8 Poll

Parker · 22nd September 2016, 11:42

I know for many 1.8 owners the threat of HGF looms large, I myself had OCD over checking the coolant level and looking for mayo when I owned my 1.8, I made sure that thorough checks were made and the car was maintained at all times and yet on a journey home one evening it happens. Thankfully repairs were done and the car was sold and is still on the roads, so it isn't the end of the world.

I am just curious what percentage of the 1.8's sadly suffer this problem

MGjim · 22nd September 2016, 11:54

My ZT-T 1.8T came with a mound of paperwork, including a bill for around £700 for head gasket replacement and other work (head was pressure tested etc.)

Sheraton · 22nd September 2016, 12:08

my car was loosing coolant since purchase almost 1 year ago (1 week shy)
I was planning to do a preventative replacement - however with all the other wee jobs never got round to it before failure

i'd ran the car for 10,000miles (70,000 ish on the clock now) before it failed. i lost coolant to the oil. i noticed the temp jump on a short run

put heating on full to control the temp and parked her up

i had the repair work done including water pump, cambelt etc.. cheers to CossieDunc

I've done around 1200miles since the repair - and all seems well, i haven't needed to top up any coolant yet

Paul.

FLYING BANANA · 22nd September 2016, 13:30

Banana suffered HGF with the previous owner. Was replaced with just a regular gasket. Mileage 41,000.

I bought Banana and she suffered HGF again at 82,600. Warranty Direct refused to pay for the MLS gasket to be put on as it was deemed to be a modification. Either the regular one is fitted and they pay for it or if the updated one is fitted then I pay for it. I opted for the regular one to be fitted. Never renewed the warranty with them.

At 122,000 it failed again. Now with MJS, so they fitted the updated one plus everything else that needed to be done at the same time.
At 125,500 she started losing water and it looked like there was oil in the water, well that's what I thought.
Mike had the car back and replaced the head along with everything else.

Later on it was discovered that the radiator was leaking. Mike replaced that as well.

Banana is now on 174,000.

My first V8, "Blue Thunder", also suffered HGF at 48,000.

chris75 · 22nd September 2016, 15:39

Might it be worth opening up this poll to cover 1.4 or 1.6 K series engines we have owned as well ? As far as the head gasket and its problems they are identical , and it would give a bigger return to the poll

Darcydog · 22nd September 2016, 15:52

I had the 1.4 K series in a Rover 200 Company Car and it was awesome - many 10's of thousands of miles and never missed a beat

Then had the 1.8 K series in a Freelander and again, many 10's of thousands of miles and never any issues. I did tho' always treat both with "care" from cold, and the 1.8 in the Freelander was the later ones with the remote thermostat in the top hose - not stuck on the engines bottom!

Never had one in a 75 or a ZT tho. It would have to be a very good example at a knock down price to make me consider one now, seeing as past history/abuse is more than likely.

marinabrian · 22nd September 2016, 16:28

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Originally Posted by chris75

Might it be worth opening up this poll to cover 1.4 or 1.6 K series engines we have owned as well ? As far as the head gasket and its problems they are identical , and it would give a bigger return to the poll

372,000 miles on the same gasket on my 214 SEi, and 71,000 miles on my new 416 SLi without issue.

All on blue antifreeze

Brian

BigJohn · 22nd September 2016, 16:33

My vote is based not on a 1.8 K in a 75 but the 1.8VVC in my MGF. I have owned it from new in 1998 and whilst it had never suffered HGF I had the HG replaced with the latest Chinese MLS HG from the N series as a preventive measure 4 years ago. My only other experience of the K series was in the less prone to HGF 1.4 guise. I did over 70K in my 214SLi driving into London everyday and apart from a dirty crankcase sensor it was faultless and the best made car I have ever owned

Parker · 23rd September 2016, 13:16

78% HGF so far, but it does show not inevitable.

Stormbringer · 23rd September 2016, 13:26

The head gasket on Blue has just gone for the second time in my ownership just 13,000 miles after it was last done.

Pete

View Poll Results: Head Gasket Failure - Has it happened to you?
My 1.8 suffered HGF before I bought it	19	51.35%
My 1.8 suffered HGF since I bought it	10	27.03%
I am not aware of any HGF issues with my 1.8	3	8.11%
My 1.8 has never suffered from HGF	7	18.92%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

22nd September 2016, 11:42	#1
Parker This is my second home Jaguar XJ 3.0 V6 Auto (X350) & Hyundai Tuscon 2020 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bridgend Posts: 10,342 Thanks: 69 Thanked 559 Times in 356 Posts	HGF 1.8 Poll I know for many 1.8 owners the threat of HGF looms large, I myself had OCD over checking the coolant level and looking for mayo when I owned my 1.8, I made sure that thorough checks were made and the car was maintained at all times and yet on a journey home one evening it happens. Thankfully repairs were done and the car was sold and is still on the roads, so it isn't the end of the world. I am just curious what percentage of the 1.8's sadly suffer this problem __________________ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...a585a72d1c.jpg "The only thing to do with good advice is pass it on. It is never any use to oneself" SOME VERY USEFUL LINKS SIMPLE DOOR MIRROR REPAIR FITTING CROFT DOOR FINISHERS FORUM RULES CLUB SHOP

22nd September 2016, 11:54	#2
MGjim Loves to post MG ZT-T 160+ Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Peasmarsh Posts: 390 Thanks: 45 Thanked 140 Times in 87 Posts	Hgf My ZT-T 1.8T came with a mound of paperwork, including a bill for around £700 for head gasket replacement and other work (head was pressure tested etc.)

22nd September 2016, 13:30	#4
FLYING BANANA Moderator/Club Shop MG ZT 1.8t+. No.3 of 4 in Sunspot Yellow & Ford Fiesta in Black. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Rattler Farm Posts: 22,568 Thanks: 9,270 Thanked 15,645 Times in 6,806 Posts	Banana suffered HGF with the previous owner. Was replaced with just a regular gasket. Mileage 41,000. I bought Banana and she suffered HGF again at 82,600. Warranty Direct refused to pay for the MLS gasket to be put on as it was deemed to be a modification. Either the regular one is fitted and they pay for it or if the updated one is fitted then I pay for it. I opted for the regular one to be fitted. Never renewed the warranty with them. At 122,000 it failed again. Now with MJS, so they fitted the updated one plus everything else that needed to be done at the same time. At 125,500 she started losing water and it looked like there was oil in the water, well that's what I thought. Mike had the car back and replaced the head along with everything else. Later on it was discovered that the radiator was leaking. Mike replaced that as well. Banana is now on 174,000. My first V8, "Blue Thunder", also suffered HGF at 48,000. __________________ 233,431. That’s our second meet done, no.3 next weekend. onen hag oll

22nd September 2016, 15:39	#5
chris75 same car since 2005 2001 Rover 75 2.0 v6 Connoisseur Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ellesmere Port , Cheshire Posts: 3,811 Thanks: 379 Thanked 549 Times in 466 Posts	Might it be worth opening up this poll to cover 1.4 or 1.6 K series engines we have owned as well ? As far as the head gasket and its problems they are identical , and it would give a bigger return to the poll __________________ Who said it was simples ?

22nd September 2016, 12:08	#3
Sheraton Posted a thing or two Rover 75 1.8t Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,377 Thanks: 384 Thanked 409 Times in 267 Posts	my car was loosing coolant since purchase almost 1 year ago (1 week shy) I was planning to do a preventative replacement - however with all the other wee jobs never got round to it before failure i'd ran the car for 10,000miles (70,000 ish on the clock now) before it failed. i lost coolant to the oil. i noticed the temp jump on a short run put heating on full to control the temp and parked her up i had the repair work done including water pump, cambelt etc.. cheers to CossieDunc I've done around 1200miles since the repair - and all seems well, i haven't needed to top up any coolant yet Paul.

22nd September 2016, 15:52	#6
Darcydog This is my second home Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 5,428 Thanks: 3,123 Thanked 3,170 Times in 2,096 Posts	I had the 1.4 K series in a Rover 200 Company Car and it was awesome - many 10's of thousands of miles and never missed a beat Then had the 1.8 K series in a Freelander and again, many 10's of thousands of miles and never any issues. I did tho' always treat both with "care" from cold, and the 1.8 in the Freelander was the later ones with the remote thermostat in the top hose - not stuck on the engines bottom! Never had one in a 75 or a ZT tho. It would have to be a very good example at a knock down price to make me consider one now, seeing as past history/abuse is more than likely.

22nd September 2016, 16:33	#8
BigJohn Gets stuck in Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Essex Posts: 609 Thanks: 518 Thanked 162 Times in 104 Posts	My vote is based not on a 1.8 K in a 75 but the 1.8VVC in my MGF. I have owned it from new in 1998 and whilst it had never suffered HGF I had the HG replaced with the latest Chinese MLS HG from the N series as a preventive measure 4 years ago. My only other experience of the K series was in the less prone to HGF 1.4 guise. I did over 70K in my 214SLi driving into London everyday and apart from a dirty crankcase sensor it was faultless and the best made car I have ever owned

23rd September 2016, 13:16	#9
Parker This is my second home Jaguar XJ 3.0 V6 Auto (X350) & Hyundai Tuscon 2020 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Bridgend Posts: 10,342 Thanks: 69 Thanked 559 Times in 356 Posts	78% HGF so far, but it does show not inevitable. __________________ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...a585a72d1c.jpg "The only thing to do with good advice is pass it on. It is never any use to oneself" SOME VERY USEFUL LINKS SIMPLE DOOR MIRROR REPAIR FITTING CROFT DOOR FINISHERS FORUM RULES CLUB SHOP

23rd September 2016, 13:26	#10
Stormbringer Avid contributor MG ZT Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Sandhurst Posts: 192 Thanks: 153 Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts	The head gasket on Blue has just gone for the second time in my ownership just 13,000 miles after it was last done. Pete __________________ Without trucks you have nothing!!! Uprated head gasket fitted. Blue Monaco's fitted. New boot lid with spoiler fitted Plenum Guard fitted To do Reversing sensors. Xenon headlights Twin horns.