T4 alternative - Page 8

A19_Graham · 1st April 2016, 20:56

So if Sean (Radio Guy) agrees to sing down the phone to you for free, but will also sell you a device that will slot in the centre console and do the same job but much more and much better, does that then mean he doesn't have to be a trader too??

longer86 · 1st April 2016, 20:58

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Originally Posted by suzublu

Hardly free when only those who've made a donation can have it

& only the version with full "T4" capability has to be paid for

Be very careful what you advertise here

We would lukę to give something Special for People who trusted us and made donation. This is some kind of gift for them, they can be first to see it was worth to waiting for toaf. Public, download will be available maybe one or two weeks later.
Please don't start another storm about toaf.

You can smile to your friend who get first release and ask him , he can give you soft for free. There is no any passwords no vin connections. Everybody can use it.

we promised and we give.

From users to users

A19_Graham · 1st April 2016, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by longer86

We would lukę to give something Special for People who trusted us and made donation. This is some kind of gift for them, they can be first to see it was worth to waiting for toaf. Public, download will be available maybe one or two weeks later.
Please don't start another storm about toaf.

You can smile to your friend who get first release and ask him , he can give you soft for free. There is no any passwords no vin connections. Everybody can use it.

we promised and we give.

From users to users

I'm sorry, but by definition alone, a Gift is not paid for.

longer86 · 1st April 2016, 21:02

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Originally Posted by A19_Graham

I'm sorry, but by definition alone, a Gift is not paid for.

Ok, bad word... I mean This is thank you for donation. Rest will receive download later. Is it ok now?

You can still ask your friend for a free copy. Now he can do what he want.

Even give tho copy to all forum users. There is no protection, no selling, no price

enjoy

suzublu · 1st April 2016, 21:03

There is no such thing as a "Free Lunch"

they are using this forum as a bit of advertising for their "Product" when most of the free bit can be obtained with one of those BMW scanners from EBay for £14 ish

I've nothing against enterprising & innovative people, but to do it without full disclosure to the people buying the product

I have reservations

Dominic22 · 1st April 2016, 21:10

Myself, and those I know who donated, did it to help with development only as it seemed a good cause, like I did with powerfold gears and other things.

I never expected any preferential treatment. I might have got it a couple of days early but I assume that's just a bit of a thank you.

I think surely we could just lighten up a bit as it could be a fantastic step forward for those who are not fortunate to have a Brian, Phil or Russ etc near them.

prebenny · 1st April 2016, 21:10

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Originally Posted by maxxpump

I read on another forum that TOAF was going to be charged for at around £80 a copy for the full version. I could be wrong but it was on the landy boards a while back. I know it isnt against that particular forums rules so maybe they said nothing about pricing on here as it's not allowed!

Can't be bothered discussing with it so will just use sentence overused at primary school - 'link or didn't happen'

maxxpump · 1st April 2016, 21:18

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Originally Posted by prebenny

Can't be bothered discussing with it so will just use sentence overused at primary school - 'link or didn't happen'

What primary school did you go to? but anyway it was a few months ago and would hech a bet if I went looking for it it won't be there or lost to time! Here's something I learnt in primary school, gift means gift and purchase means you hand over money for your product!

here is one link stating that TOAF will cost £40 for optional extras of two extra components! so £80 for both of them! http://forums.mg-rover.org/mg-zt-rov...rogram-798897/

also if I go to FAQ on your landing page it takes you to notfound page? http://toaf.roverki.eu/index.php/en/faq-en

maxxpump · 1st April 2016, 21:34

wait a minute it even says it costs that much on your NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- website so don't shirty with me mate!

coolcat · 1st April 2016, 21:41

Well,
What do you know , back door trading has been proven!
Over to the mods me thinks

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A19_Graham I really should get out more....... Land Rover Freelander 2 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hartlepool Posts: 2,454 Thanks: 3,124 Thanked 722 Times in 482 Posts	So if Sean (Radio Guy) agrees to sing down the phone to you for free, but will also sell you a device that will slot in the centre console and do the same job but much more and much better, does that then mean he doesn't have to be a trader too??

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suzublu This is my second home rover 75 1.8 vvc club se wedgwood blue Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Seaton Carew Posts: 26,912 Thanks: 65 Thanked 7,142 Times in 4,642 Posts	There is no such thing as a "Free Lunch" they are using this forum as a bit of advertising for their "Product" when most of the free bit can be obtained with one of those BMW scanners from EBay for £14 ish I've nothing against enterprising & innovative people, but to do it without full disclosure to the people buying the product I have reservations

1st April 2016, 21:10	#76
Dominic22 Posted a thing or two Rover 75 V8 Plus Others Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Swadlincote Posts: 1,603 Thanks: 18 Thanked 163 Times in 81 Posts	Myself, and those I know who donated, did it to help with development only as it seemed a good cause, like I did with powerfold gears and other things. I never expected any preferential treatment. I might have got it a couple of days early but I assume that's just a bit of a thank you. I think surely we could just lighten up a bit as it could be a fantastic step forward for those who are not fortunate to have a Brian, Phil or Russ etc near them.