Bad experience - MG ZT 190 SE in Saltburn

JoeMc · 27th October 2016, 12:21

*** A WORD OF WARNING ***

Apologies to the mods of this isn't allowed, but felt that I've the responsibility to warn other people!!!

Been across from Preston to Saltburn, by train, to see the ZT 190 ST that Simon Feagan is selling.

We've been in email communications for nearly 2 weeks, as I've been busy with my business, today was the first chance to come across and see it!

I've email after email asking about the condition of the car, what bodywork issues there are, no matter how trivial, any other issues (drive train, electrical, braking, engine, cooling etc) and he's repeatedly said that there's not a lot & it's an excellent car, but nearly 13 years old so with age expected dings & curbed alloys (which I've no issues about)!

I've got here about 20mins ago, cars parked outside his address. There are paintwork issues and dents all over the car (he did show me bumper paint scuffs and a dent on the passenger side roof which I was fine with). But seeing it in the flesh; there's a huge ripple down the drivers door, there is another dent on the passenger side C pillar which he said there wasn't, even though a picture he sent me shows this, there are bad patches of paint on the roof that are blatantly obvious, & look a mess, the top of the rear bumper is a mess due to poor loading of items, there rear windscreen looks like its been silicone sealed as there's sealant all around the trim, the mirror caps are an absolute mess and would need to be resprayed (along with most of the car), the headlights are a mess and would need a full refurbishment of the lenses... I could go on, but won't!

I told him he's lied to me and completely wasted my time, he thinks I've wasted his time and called me a few names... Fortunately I'm big enough for him to not go any further, but being **** to about a cars condition and then travelling from one side of the country to the other and to find my worries were confirmed, he's completely lied to me and peeved me off and left a sour taste in my mouth!

Please beware that this car would need probably close to £1k, if not more, to make it presentable, never mind 'good condition'!

Sorry if this isn't welcomed, but please take heed of this if you ever think of going to see this car or deal with Simon Feagan!

Ravinder · 27th October 2016, 12:40

Sorry to hear of your bad experience. Sounds like a right plonker.

Dominic22 · 27th October 2016, 12:52

He does seem to leave a bit of a trail of destruction that lad. If I recall was banned by nearly all Facebook sites and here etc. I think his username was "Meerkat" on here

stevestrat · 27th October 2016, 12:54

I've got bits from him in the past and had no problems. Then I bought a part, didn't arrive and despite numerous emails, texts etc I never received a refund. It wasn't much so wasn't worth pursuing further just never go near him again. He used to be a member here but got his marching orders, can't remember the reason, it was a while back.

JoeMc · 27th October 2016, 13:06

This is his FB post: https://www.facebook.com/groups/4419...2119627861743/

I've spread this bad experience across all the relevant FB groups, hopefully people will get the message!

Complete scam artist really

TomRS · 27th October 2016, 13:39

Oh dear.....

BoroRover · 27th October 2016, 15:09

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Originally Posted by TomRS

Oh dear.....

Ditto, oh dear, Saltburn is not the easiest place to get to either ☹️

Heddy · 27th October 2016, 16:13

Can't view it 'cos not on any F/book car groups. The words 'Saltburn' and 'Rotherham' set alarm bells off with me. I'm sure they're great towns, with great people but.....a few iffy dealers are from those towns if I remember

jonc3725 · 27th October 2016, 16:19

Uh oh. I had a rough time from a seller and I didn't post anything near what you have. Sorry to hear about the wasted journey. I feel your pain because mine was an 8 hour round trip

2.8jonmy · 27th October 2016, 18:45

I feel your pain having recently had a near identical experience be it at the opposite end of the country. As annoyed as i was I found another car within two miles of home and couldn't be happier. I hope you find a more genuine seller and car soon.
Cheers Jon.

27th October 2016, 12:21	#1
JoeMc Loves to post MG ZT V6 / BMW E60 M5 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Bamber Bridge Posts: 372 Thanks: 34 Thanked 62 Times in 51 Posts	Bad experience - MG ZT 190 SE in Saltburn * A WORD OF WARNING * Apologies to the mods of this isn't allowed, but felt that I've the responsibility to warn other people!!! Been across from Preston to Saltburn, by train, to see the ZT 190 ST that Simon Feagan is selling. We've been in email communications for nearly 2 weeks, as I've been busy with my business, today was the first chance to come across and see it! I've email after email asking about the condition of the car, what bodywork issues there are, no matter how trivial, any other issues (drive train, electrical, braking, engine, cooling etc) and he's repeatedly said that there's not a lot & it's an excellent car, but nearly 13 years old so with age expected dings & curbed alloys (which I've no issues about)! I've got here about 20mins ago, cars parked outside his address. There are paintwork issues and dents all over the car (he did show me bumper paint scuffs and a dent on the passenger side roof which I was fine with). But seeing it in the flesh; there's a huge ripple down the drivers door, there is another dent on the passenger side C pillar which he said there wasn't, even though a picture he sent me shows this, there are bad patches of paint on the roof that are blatantly obvious, & look a mess, the top of the rear bumper is a mess due to poor loading of items, there rear windscreen looks like its been silicone sealed as there's sealant all around the trim, the mirror caps are an absolute mess and would need to be resprayed (along with most of the car), the headlights are a mess and would need a full refurbishment of the lenses... I could go on, but won't! I told him he's lied to me and completely wasted my time, he thinks I've wasted his time and called me a few names... Fortunately I'm big enough for him to not go any further, but being **** to about a cars condition and then travelling from one side of the country to the other and to find my worries were confirmed, he's completely lied to me and peeved me off and left a sour taste in my mouth! Please beware that this car would need probably close to £1k, if not more, to make it presentable, never mind 'good condition'! Sorry if this isn't welcomed, but please take heed of this if you ever think of going to see this car or deal with Simon Feagan! Last edited by Parker; 27th October 2016 at 12:28..

27th October 2016, 12:40	#2
Ravinder This is my second home Rover 75 saloon x2, Rover 75 Tourer x2, Rover 220 Coupe Turbo Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Kirkcaldy, Fife Posts: 9,036 Thanks: 2,278 Thanked 2,852 Times in 1,718 Posts	Sorry to hear of your bad experience. Sounds like a right plonker. __________________ Wanted - Indian bride. Cash waiting. (All sorted - bargain) First name and forum name: Ravinder Rover 75 2.0 CDT Connoisseur SE 116 (160 remap) Royal Blue (JFM) This vehicle was the 50,481st 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 2,238th 75 CDT Connoisseur SE to be made out of 3,775 This vehicle was the 5,002nd 75 in Royal Blue (code: JFM) to be made out of 14,420 Royal Blue 75s

27th October 2016, 12:52	#3
Dominic22 Posted a thing or two Rover 75 V8 Plus Others Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Swadlincote Posts: 1,603 Thanks: 18 Thanked 163 Times in 81 Posts	He does seem to leave a bit of a trail of destruction that lad. If I recall was banned by nearly all Facebook sites and here etc. I think his username was "Meerkat" on here Last edited by Dominic22; 27th October 2016 at 12:59..

27th October 2016, 12:54	#4
stevestrat This is my second home ZT260 #243 (resting) Join Date: May 2010 Location: Prestonpans Posts: 22,462 Thanks: 650 Thanked 4,624 Times in 3,358 Posts	I've got bits from him in the past and had no problems. Then I bought a part, didn't arrive and despite numerous emails, texts etc I never received a refund. It wasn't much so wasn't worth pursuing further just never go near him again. He used to be a member here but got his marching orders, can't remember the reason, it was a while back. __________________ Steve T4 Location Map

27th October 2016, 13:39	#6
TomRS Posted a thing or two Mk1 ZT 190 - Mk2 ZS 180 - Mercedes E63 AMG S - Ford Ranger Hawk Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 1,456 Thanks: 123 Thanked 409 Times in 281 Posts	Oh dear..... __________________ http://i66.tinypic.com/5cd6xj.jpg

27th October 2016, 13:06	#5
JoeMc Loves to post MG ZT V6 / BMW E60 M5 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Bamber Bridge Posts: 372 Thanks: 34 Thanked 62 Times in 51 Posts	This is his FB post: https://www.facebook.com/groups/4419...2119627861743/ I've spread this bad experience across all the relevant FB groups, hopefully people will get the message! Complete scam artist really

27th October 2016, 16:13	#8
Heddy This is my second home None Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: None Posts: 5,556 Thanks: 465 Thanked 1,161 Times in 924 Posts	Can't view it 'cos not on any F/book car groups. The words 'Saltburn' and 'Rotherham' set alarm bells off with me. I'm sure they're great towns, with great people but.....a few iffy dealers are from those towns if I remember

27th October 2016, 16:19	#9
jonc3725 Posted a thing or two MG ZT 190 + and MKIV Supra Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Plymouth Posts: 1,551 Thanks: 224 Thanked 493 Times in 359 Posts	Uh oh. I had a rough time from a seller and I didn't post anything near what you have. Sorry to hear about the wasted journey. I feel your pain because mine was an 8 hour round trip __________________ Jon C Living the dream MK IV VVTI Tiptronic TT Toyota Supra MG ZT 190+ BornTuesday, 10th July 2001 @ 09:01:10 259th ZT to run off the production line, out of 18,894 252nd ZT 190 + to be made out of 4,023 101st ZT in Solar Red (code: CEU) to be made out of 1,888

27th October 2016, 18:45	#10
2.8jonmy Regular poster Rover 75 tourer Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Redruth Posts: 79 Thanks: 18 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts	I feel your pain having recently had a near identical experience be it at the opposite end of the country. As annoyed as i was I found another car within two miles of home and couldn't be happier. I hope you find a more genuine seller and car soon. Cheers Jon.