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I've spent £2,000 on mine in the last two months and its insurance value is £770. So on the face of it this could be seen as an illogical decision. However, I'm not planning on selling it so the retail value is meaningless, I only do 100 or so miles a week in it so the fuel cost isn't a deal breaker and it was bought and paid for on the day I drove it away, nine years ago, so there's no £250 a month contract hanging round my neck for years as there would be if I leased a car or bought one on HP. |
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A mate gets £450 a month for a car with his work, no BMW or Merc for him. He has an Vauxhall Insignia and he has to an additional £20 out of his own pocket. Yes he could have got a better price but would have had to put down £2k first, I can buy a car outright for the deposit. I am sure leasing work's for some but I think it is just a way of getting people who can't afford a new car behind the wheel. |
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14th March 2022, 08:34 | #54 | |
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this comment is spot on, you need cobalt and lots of it to make battery cars, if GB only replaced all of its cars with battery cars we would need 2000% of the world production its all bull.......Battery cars are not it.... and the climate change oh sorry global warming... is the same hoax as the current situations the world finds its self in. |
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Have to admit this weekend I was nearly hooked with a advert for a Ecoboost Fiesta ST Line on a 66 plate from a local dealer then he gives the costs per month... £313 a month or something like that, I just find the HP/PCP prices per month seem to have increased as well, but I am sticking with my 75, just spent in the last month about £300 to keep her on the road.
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As it goes cobalt is being phased out of battery packs and the next generation will be cobalt free. Thanks to the research done by the likes of Tesla there is also a good chance that this technology will filter down to the biggest user of cobalt with is consumer electronics so hopefully in a few years the phone in your pocket will also contain no cobalt. Don't also overlook the biggest benefit of EV's which is local pollution. Think about how much nicer our city centers will be without the noise and pollution from ICE cars. Finally for those of us that want to continue running dino juice cars as a hobby we're more likely to be able to do so if people naturally move to EV's which means less chance of the government legislating to remove ICE cars altogether.
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We're currently using our diesel tourer manual for everyday work commuting, school runs, shopping visiting family etc... The wife isn't even using her ford sportka anymore (that is expensive!) Nearly 300 pound road tax and £65 to fill with E10 and 250 miles later (approx 10 days travelling to us).
Since we did the clutch and wheel bearing on our tourer.. it's been in daily use, racking up around 800 miles a month on average. Averaging about 45mpg which I can't complain about for the size of the car. Wife likes it that much.. she wants a diesel 75 herself to replace her much loved sportka. Going down the finance route as a young family isn't really viable and getting something newer and paying cash.. could be an option but, then it's the price of the parts for said newer vehicle and the added complexity because it's newer.. "Better the devil ya know". Driven myself round the bend thinking of other more economical European peasant wagons but as we have found from personal experience.. cheaper to run, still an old ish car, whatever you'll save in fuel/tax you'll lose in cost of repairs. A car that is cheap to run/tax etc, is unlikely to have been maintained by an enthusiast, the type of person that buys such a car is likely to be tighter than two coats of paint as we have found over the years Last edited by biffa75; 15th March 2022 at 06:10.. |
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Lots of posts here with plenty of common sense. I think a lot of people struggling with fuel prices will also be paying monthlies for leased/PCP cars and might now find it unaffordable.
I've had a few comments since I bought my 2.5 as a daily in September and fuel prices have gone only one way, but before this I spent 7 years or so paying PCP across 3 cars. No hard feelings to the dealers etc, I had most recently a 69 plate Focus ST which I could not have afforded cash up front. Before that I had a Mini Cooper S brand new, kept it 4 years and over 40k miles, great car. However, I got fed up of paying £300+/month before I'd driven anywhere so decided to transfer my hobby of looking after MG Rover cars (had a couple of TFs) to a daily as well. Got a 75 in good condition, 40k miles and now I commute in comfort with no monthlies and the price of the 75 was comfortably less than just the deposit on the Focus. Petrol wise my commute is driving from semi-urban into a town centre, so never got much above 32mpg on about 110 miles/week. Admittedly it's now down to 25/26 but the cost has got to go up a hell of a lot before I'm anywhere near where I was before. I know the 2 cars aren't equivalent but it's why I'm not too worried. Suppose it all depends on circumstances. However, there will also be people right on the breadline. Who are already driving a cheaper, older car because it's all they can afford and their only means of earning a living, where a substantial increase in petrol costs really will hurt them and their families. What we do for these people is a tough one because I'm not sure how they can help themselves, if they are already driving the cheapest car they can. Unfortunately the result may be it's not worth their while working at all. Last edited by TomTheTyke; 15th March 2022 at 09:44.. |
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