BoJo and Sunak fines - Page 10

mbev51 · 18th April 2022, 13:22

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Originally Posted by wraymond

So, are we now to compare one with the other? That'll be interesting! Be wary of closure, it's been very close once or four times!

Nobody is being aggressive or nasty about others points of view. Hopefully the mods will see that. You must have the ear of a moderators or two.

wraymond · 18th April 2022, 14:41

Couldn't agree more Michael. So far, for quite a time, virtually the only subject has been one person (with not a little vitriol thrown). I wonder if similar enthusiasm for name calling will suddenly become old hat and quietly subside for a while. Talking of subjects....well, better leave that. Oh, and so far as I know, I have only ever come into contact with one 'Mod' and he was a perfect gentleman.

Borg Warner · 18th April 2022, 15:40

Teflon Nicky it is:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61142777

wraymond · 18th April 2022, 16:40

At last, a positive to come out of hiding! It shows how sensible the Scottish police can be compared to their counterparts elsewhere! Or do I mean 'canny'?

Borg Warner · 19th April 2022, 14:12

There's going to be a vote it seems:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-61143220

Popcorn time.

But he'll not lose.

But everyone else will.

wraymond · 19th April 2022, 17:54

Oh dear, what a pantomime! Starmer, desperate for some gravitas, couldn’t remember beyond half a sentence what had been written down for him by a spad and had to go to his notes repeatedly. Embarrasing, and totally without ‘bottom’. As for that idiot Blackford, what a blaggard. How anybody could take him seriously beats me.

We are represented by so few actual ‘statesmen’ it is, again, embarrassing to think these clowns get so much international attention. Johnson will escape with his trousers intact. I use the word ‘statesmen’ loosley. The nerve of Theresa May. ....er , possibly the worst and most awfully useless PM in history, to criticise anybody also beats me.

I do wish there was some acceptance that 80% of what those stooges Witty and Valance trotted out was cobblers. Thousands, if not millions, of people openly ridiculed the obvious phoney tragedy in their sobbing crocodile tears. That’s the embarrassing bit, not the bottle of wine on a garden table with three work colleagues.

Borg Warner · 19th April 2022, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by wraymond

Oh dear, what a pantomime! Starmer, desperate for some gravitas, couldn’t remember beyond half a sentence what had been written down for him by a spad and had to go to his notes repeatedly. Embarrasing, and totally without ‘bottom’. As for that idiot Blackford, what a blaggard. How anybody could take him seriously beats me.

We are represented by so few actual ‘statesmen’ it is, again, embarrassing to think these clowns get so much international attention. Johnson will escape with his trousers intact. I use the word ‘statesmen’ loosley. The nerve of Theresa May. ....er , possibly the worst and most awfully useless PM in history, to criticise anybody also beats me.

I do wish there was some acceptance that 80% of what those stooges Witty and Valance trotted out was cobblers. Thousands, if not millions, of people openly ridiculed the obvious phoney tragedy in their sobbing crocodile tears. That’s the embarrassing bit, not the bottle of wine on a garden table with three work colleagues.

Watched it and like you thought it was a joke. Worrying that Starmer needed a crib sheet. Think that whether he stays or goes, the damage is done. He was right in one thing though, with all that is going on in the world this sorry state of affairs is something we all could do without.

Even if he gets the red card I think the government's position is poor to say the least.

God help us going forward.

MSS · 19th April 2022, 19:36

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Originally Posted by Borg Warner

Watched it and like you thought it was a joke. Worrying that Starmer needed a crib sheet. Think that whether he stays or goes, the damage is done. He was right in one thing though, with all that is going on in the world this sorry state of affairs is something we all could do without.

Even if he gets the red card I think the government's position is poor to say the least.

God help us going forward.

There is an assumption there that the PM actually has any real influence on what goes on in the world. Did anyone notice BJ standing there on his own after one of the summits in Europe recently whilst everyone else was shaking hands around him?

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Originally Posted by wraymond

Couldn't agree more Michael. So far, for quite a time, virtually the only subject has been one person (with not a little vitriol thrown). I wonder if similar enthusiasm for name calling will suddenly become old hat and quietly subside for a while. Talking of subjects....well, better leave that. Oh, and so far as I know, I have only ever come into contact with one 'Mod' and he was a perfect gentleman.

Wraymond, it's great to see you moving on from just politics and taking an interest in car stuff. It's such a shame that this has been left so late and to a time when you have indicated a desire not to be part of this car centric club anymore.

Nevertheless, we have finally found common ground - Vitirol is the best rust prevention/treatment available.

wraymond · 19th April 2022, 20:16

MSS, I offer some gentle advice in a fraternal effort to improve discourse, as opposed to criticism. Please, desist from your apparent attempts at attempting to either imply or convince you have some sort of insight into my psyche. Your frequent allusion to some sort of equivalence or deeper psychological understanding of what gets said is somewhat embarrassing and wholly fatuous. Be a gent, realise I am not worthy of your apparent efforts to psychoanalyze. Thanks.

MSS · 19th April 2022, 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by wraymond

MSS, I offer some gentle advice in a fraternal effort to improve discourse, as opposed to criticism. Please, desist from your apparent attempts at attempting to either imply or convince you have some sort of insight into my psyche. Your frequent allusion to some sort of equivalence or deeper psychological understanding of what gets said is somewhat embarrassing and wholly fatuous. Be a gent, realise I am not worthy of your apparent efforts to psychoanalyze. Thanks.

Wraymond, thank you for the kind words.

I would say thought that you give me too much credit. I do not even think that I have an insight into my own psyche.

As for psychoanalyze, I will be back after consulting my Oxford, proper hardback version, disctionary.

18th April 2022, 14:41	#92
wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,193 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	Couldn't agree more Michael. So far, for quite a time, virtually the only subject has been one person (with not a little vitriol thrown). I wonder if similar enthusiasm for name calling will suddenly become old hat and quietly subside for a while. Talking of subjects....well, better leave that. Oh, and so far as I know, I have only ever come into contact with one 'Mod' and he was a perfect gentleman. __________________ member no. 235

18th April 2022, 16:40	#94
wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,193 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	At last, a positive to come out of hiding! It shows how sensible the Scottish police can be compared to their counterparts elsewhere! Or do I mean 'canny'? __________________ member no. 235

19th April 2022, 17:54	#96
wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,193 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	Oh dear, what a pantomime! Starmer, desperate for some gravitas, couldn’t remember beyond half a sentence what had been written down for him by a spad and had to go to his notes repeatedly. Embarrasing, and totally without ‘bottom’. As for that idiot Blackford, what a blaggard. How anybody could take him seriously beats me. We are represented by so few actual ‘statesmen’ it is, again, embarrassing to think these clowns get so much international attention. Johnson will escape with his trousers intact. I use the word ‘statesmen’ loosley. The nerve of Theresa May. ....er , possibly the worst and most awfully useless PM in history, to criticise anybody also beats me. I do wish there was some acceptance that 80% of what those stooges Witty and Valance trotted out was cobblers. Thousands, if not millions, of people openly ridiculed the obvious phoney tragedy in their sobbing crocodile tears. That’s the embarrassing bit, not the bottle of wine on a garden table with three work colleagues. __________________ member no. 235 Last edited by wraymond; 19th April 2022 at 17:56..

19th April 2022, 20:16	#99
wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,193 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	MSS, I offer some gentle advice in a fraternal effort to improve discourse, as opposed to criticism. Please, desist from your apparent attempts at attempting to either imply or convince you have some sort of insight into my psyche. Your frequent allusion to some sort of equivalence or deeper psychological understanding of what gets said is somewhat embarrassing and wholly fatuous. Be a gent, realise I am not worthy of your apparent efforts to psychoanalyze. Thanks. __________________ member no. 235

18th April 2022, 15:40	#93
Borg Warner I really should get out more....... None Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2,579 Thanks: 494 Thanked 657 Times in 402 Posts	Teflon Nicky it is: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61142777

19th April 2022, 14:12	#95
Borg Warner I really should get out more....... None Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2,579 Thanks: 494 Thanked 657 Times in 402 Posts	There's going to be a vote it seems: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-61143220 Popcorn time. But he'll not lose. But everyone else will.