Leaking Rear Windscreen repaired, with screen left in! - Page 5

coolasacucumber · 19th February 2013, 17:45

Well, I've just clipped it all back together, so I'll just have to wait and see!

rich17865 · 14th July 2013, 08:53

It would be a good time of year to get this done, so you aren't doing it in the rain and cold come winter time

Rickshaw · 14th October 2013, 10:19

Firstly I'd like to add my thanks to Rich for his excellent guidance and 'How to' notes. I have a continual 'boot drip' and can now see athe way to a solution. ONLY thing I would add is that Rimmer's could not find the items when I gave them :-

djc000040 and djc000050 <== Wrong/old?

but eventually corrected me to say they are :-

dcj000040 and dcj000050 <== Current

Having found them I have' of course , ordered them.

I'm NOT trying to be 'picky' on this point - just trying to save people a lot of wasted time on Google searches etc !! Hope this helps - and many thanks again to Rich for his sterling work.

J1MBO · 14th October 2013, 10:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickshaw

Firstly I'd like to add my thanks to Rich for his excellent guidance and 'How to' notes. I have a continual 'boot drip' and can now see athe way to a solution. ONLY thing I would add is that Rimmer's could not find the items when I gave them :-

djc000040 and djc000050 <== Wrong/old?

but eventually corrected me to say they are :-

dcj000040 and dcj000050 <== Current

Having found them I have' of course , ordered them.

I'm NOT trying to be 'picky' on this point - just trying to save people a lot of wasted time on Google searches etc !! Hope this helps - and many thanks again to Rich for his sterling work.

Comments appreciated Rick.

Double checked, I would confirm that you are indeed correct and have edited what I assume was a typo from the original post.

rich17865 · 14th October 2013, 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickshaw

Firstly I'd like to add my thanks to Rich for his excellent guidance and 'How to' notes. I have a continual 'boot drip' and can now see athe way to a solution. ONLY thing I would add is that Rimmer's could not find the items when I gave them :-

djc000040 and djc000050 <== Wrong/old?

but eventually corrected me to say they are :-

dcj000040 and dcj000050 <== Current

Having found them I have' of course , ordered them.

I'm NOT trying to be 'picky' on this point - just trying to save people a lot of wasted time on Google searches etc !! Hope this helps - and many thanks again to Rich for his sterling work.

Many thanks, apologies for the typo, glad you got sorted

Thanks Jim for correcting it

Rickshaw · 14th October 2013, 19:56

I know that a lot of thought/design goes into the management of water flow on cars and certainly this applies to the Rover 75. I therefore presume that the spaces/channels beneath the rubber / chrome strips surrounding the rear window are there to move water our and away to stream off down either side of the boot. What surpriese me is the amount of water apparently going down these side channels beside the window. Just WHERE does it all come from. On my car I have filled the small gaps at end of the two roof gutter rails ( clear sealant) and applied some to the 'slightly lifting' surround rubbers near the corners of the rear windon. Examining the seal/tightness of this elsewhere, it seems to be a pretty firm ie watertight? fit up against the window. If I were to apply sealant all the way round would THIS stop water flowing down the side channels? OR might I end up creating a water pool somewhere and bring on corrosion? OR are there other sources I am not aware of that it creeps in from? Why did not MG Rover apply a sealant all the way round? Or am I missing something.
Just a few thoughts!

rich17865 · 14th October 2013, 20:04

The chrome trim is exactly that, a trim, it has no waterproofing properties at all. The water leaks through the lower trim clips as they fit through the body and the others around the top and sides do not.

johnnybbad · 14th October 2013, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich17865

The chrome trim is exactly that, a trim, it has no waterproofing properties at all. The water leaks through the lower trim clips as they fit through the body and the others around the top and sides do not.

Yeah your right, even with the trim completely removed you should not get any leakage into the car

Original clips were foam backed which acted as a seal, over the years the foam breaks down causing the clips to go loose and leak

I work as a windscreen fitter, so if anyone local to me needs some poly to reseal the clips then just let me know

rich17865 · 14th October 2013, 20:36

In the majority the part of the clip that fits through the body breaks off, the foam seal has been present and serviceable on nearly all the ones I have done.

The reason that windscreen fitters do not like silicone around auto windscreens is because the water based polyurethane primer does not adhere to the oil based silicone when they are trying to fit a new screen.

There is no evidence that silicone affects paint that I can find, factual or personal experience based.

johnnybbad · 14th October 2013, 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich17865

In the majority the part of the clip that fits through the body breaks off, the foam seal has been present and serviceable on nearly all the ones I have done.

The reason that windscreen fitters do not like silicone around auto windscreens is because the water based polyurethane primer does not adhere to the oil based silicone when they are trying to fit a new screen.

There is no evidence that silicone affects paint that I can find, factual or personal experience based.

I dont think it would effect the paint either as i have never seen any evidence of that.

But i still would not apply silicone to anywhere round the windscreen area

14th October 2013, 10:19	#43
Rickshaw Loves to post Rover 75 Tourer, 2 X75 Saloon , MGTF Sunstorm Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Guildford Posts: 380 Thanks: 497 Thanked 172 Times in 93 Posts	Updated Clips Number Firstly I'd like to add my thanks to Rich for his excellent guidance and 'How to' notes. I have a continual 'boot drip' and can now see athe way to a solution. ONLY thing I would add is that Rimmer's could not find the items when I gave them :- djc000040 and djc000050 <== Wrong/old? but eventually corrected me to say they are :- dcj000040 and dcj000050 <== Current Having found them I have' of course , ordered them. I'm NOT trying to be 'picky' on this point - just trying to save people a lot of wasted time on Google searches etc !! Hope this helps - and many thanks again to Rich for his sterling work.

14th October 2013, 19:56	#46
Rickshaw Loves to post Rover 75 Tourer, 2 X75 Saloon , MGTF Sunstorm Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Guildford Posts: 380 Thanks: 497 Thanked 172 Times in 93 Posts	Simple query from simple me! I know that a lot of thought/design goes into the management of water flow on cars and certainly this applies to the Rover 75. I therefore presume that the spaces/channels beneath the rubber / chrome strips surrounding the rear window are there to move water our and away to stream off down either side of the boot. What surpriese me is the amount of water apparently going down these side channels beside the window. Just WHERE does it all come from. On my car I have filled the small gaps at end of the two roof gutter rails ( clear sealant) and applied some to the 'slightly lifting' surround rubbers near the corners of the rear windon. Examining the seal/tightness of this elsewhere, it seems to be a pretty firm ie watertight? fit up against the window. If I were to apply sealant all the way round would THIS stop water flowing down the side channels? OR might I end up creating a water pool somewhere and bring on corrosion? OR are there other sources I am not aware of that it creeps in from? Why did not MG Rover apply a sealant all the way round? Or am I missing something. Just a few thoughts!

19th February 2013, 17:45	#41
coolasacucumber Gets stuck in '54 Black MG ZT CDTi + 160 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Blackburn Posts: 749 Thanks: 24 Thanked 21 Times in 17 Posts	Well, I've just clipped it all back together, so I'll just have to wait and see!

14th July 2013, 08:53	#42
rich17865 This is my second home Transit Connect Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Crewe Posts: 9,532 Thanks: 868 Thanked 1,619 Times in 1,095 Posts	It would be a good time of year to get this done, so you aren't doing it in the rain and cold come winter time

14th October 2013, 20:04	#47
rich17865 This is my second home Transit Connect Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Crewe Posts: 9,532 Thanks: 868 Thanked 1,619 Times in 1,095 Posts	The chrome trim is exactly that, a trim, it has no waterproofing properties at all. The water leaks through the lower trim clips as they fit through the body and the others around the top and sides do not.

14th October 2013, 20:36	#49
rich17865 This is my second home Transit Connect Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Crewe Posts: 9,532 Thanks: 868 Thanked 1,619 Times in 1,095 Posts	In the majority the part of the clip that fits through the body breaks off, the foam seal has been present and serviceable on nearly all the ones I have done. The reason that windscreen fitters do not like silicone around auto windscreens is because the water based polyurethane primer does not adhere to the oil based silicone when they are trying to fit a new screen. There is no evidence that silicone affects paint that I can find, factual or personal experience based.