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Old 17th July 2019, 14:23   #1
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Default Is the jaguar xj the newest car on the road like the rover 75

With the jaguar XJ finishing this month in production and the last new ones leaving the factory this month, i wondered if the beautiful Jaguar XJ is the 2010s onwards the Rover 75 brother, class and stands out from the crowd, i do have a spoft spot for these, and one of the last true great Britsh executive saloon cars,

sick of seeing SUV cars, love CARS!!! Whats your thought with the 51 years of the XJs passing, with just a few hundred brand new ones left for sale now...
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Old 17th July 2019, 14:35   #2
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The last real Jaguar shape XJ finished in 2009 - the latest XJ always looked clumsy to me, and the rear end was just awful. I am not surprised that Jaguar Land Rover is reported to be struggling, although I am sad that it is.
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Old 17th July 2019, 14:43   #3
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i MUST ADMIT i thought that when they come out, in 2009 on the 59 platers yuk!!

however now years on they have grown into a 2019 car quite nicely and i drove one a few weeks, wow what a car to drive true power and luxury, and the Jaguar phase came back into my head from the 1960s

GRACE, PACE, SPACE so very true of this particular Jaguar.

it reminded me of MG Rover when they were trading another true phase under those unions jacks........ IN A CLASS OF IT'S OWN

Jaguar may make a serious error inventing a battery XJ... No grunt...when pressing down the peddle is NO NO for a Jaguar, we need the combustion engine with more efficient fuels, batteries YUK YUK YUK
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They receive rave reviews and a few stalwart Jag owner’s I know love them
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GRACE, PACE, SPACE so very true of this particular Jaguar.



Jaguar may make a serious error inventing a battery XJ... No grunt...when pressing down the peddle is NO NO for a Jaguar, we need the combustion engine with more efficient fuels, batteries YUK YUK YUK
I'm also a fan of the Grace, Space and Pace Jags. I had a 3.8 S type and a 4.2 XJ6. Electric and no grunt ?????? These new leccy motors can really fly with very little noise. Sounds perfect for a luxury car. I'd be happy to test drive one for the forseeable future. Come on JLR, give me one! ............... and I mean that in the best possible way!
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I'm also a fan of the Grace, Space and Pace Jags. I had a 3.8 S type and a 4.2 XJ6. Electric and no grunt ?????? These new leccy motors can really fly with very little noise. Sounds perfect for a luxury car. I'd be happy to test drive one for the forseeable future. Come on JLR, give me one! ............... and I mean that in the best possible way!
Trouble is you DON'T own the Batteries a third party do, Not Jag either!!
all this rubbish about air pollution , heres a few points

its takes 10 barrels oil to make a combustion engine cars, to make a battery car 25 barrels of oil, so more oil up front for materials, then

the power stations are currently running at 96% in Great Britain, if we all go to battery cars the national grid will shut down at 17:05 when we all get home from work . The grid cannot take it and more coal/wind, hydro is being shoved in to push out the Giga watts to the houses. * FROM THE TAIL PIPE TO THE COOLING TOWERS INSTEAD*

These are things the GB government is NOT telling us about. THE end of life CARS ALSO not in here when the cars ARE scrapped in years to come, battery cars are more environmentally worse than the good old combustion engine and will cost YOU to scrap it .

Battery cars will also add to the depletion of oils of plastics, so all things made of plastic will increase household costs, as the great oil fields like Ghawhar ( SAUDI ARABIA) deplete year after year , currently from 9 million barrels a day to just 4.5 million barrels of oil now from 1948 to 2019.

This depletion is NOT being replaced by new technology or new oil fields, Ghawhar field is currently pumping in millions of gallons of water per day to keep the oil pressure up, Battery cars are NOT the answer its a front only.

JAGUAR do not do it keep making beautiful cars with another means... be a class leader , not crowd follower.
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I would definitely have one of these, the fit and finish in the XJ is superb, glove box is lined with purple velvet, and is exceptionally comfortable, with the massage, heated and cooled Seats, and adaptive cruise control is the best out there.

Recently sat in one at a show, and can be picked up for less that a £13k. Cost around £60k when new, and a very good engine, with around 296 bhp for the 3.0 diesel.

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Trouble is you DON'T own the Batteries a third party do, Not Jag either!!
all this rubbish about air pollution , heres a few points

its takes 10 barrels oil to make a combustion engine cars, to make a battery car 25 barrels of oil, so more oil up front for materials, then

the power stations are currently running at 96% in Great Britain, if we all go to battery cars the national grid will shut down at 17:05 when we all get home from work . The grid cannot take it and more coal/wind, hydro is being shoved in to push out the Giga watts to the houses. * FROM THE TAIL PIPE TO THE COOLING TOWERS INSTEAD*

These are things the GB government is NOT telling us about. THE end of life CARS ALSO not in here when the cars ARE scrapped in years to come, battery cars are more environmentally worse than the good old combustion engine and will cost YOU to scrap it .

Battery cars will also add to the depletion of oils of plastics, so all things made of plastic will increase household costs, as the great oil fields like Ghawhar ( SAUDI ARABIA) deplete year after year , currently from 9 million barrels a day to just 4.5 million barrels of oil now from 1948 to 2019.

This depletion is NOT being replaced by new technology or new oil fields, Ghawhar field is currently pumping in millions of gallons of water per day to keep the oil pressure up, Battery cars are NOT the answer its a front only.

JAGUAR do not do it keep making beautiful cars with another means... be a class leader , not crowd follower.
It is our consumption of oil that makes the polymer by-products so cheap that it more expensive to recycle used plastic, so we just discard huge quantities of it, polluting the planet. High time the government put a tax on virgin plastic, and cross-subsidised re-cycling of plastics, after all, there is far more waste plastic in the world than we are ever likely to need, as long as we continue to recycle it. And electric motors are so much more efficient than even the latest eco IC engines, even after including the losses from steam turbine generation ( again, far more efficient than the IC engine, even when produced by coal), and grid delivery losses, there is really no argument. Add to that the huge cost of delivering fuel to filling stations by tanker, transport of oil to refineries by supertankers, etc,it becomes apparent that electric cars, or electrification of existing cars, is the only way to make any impact on transport pollution. And as we replace more of our old fossil fuelled power stations with renewables, and roll out further efficiencies in our homes and businesses, more electricity will be available for charging up our cars. But you are correct that our current grid infrastructure is woefully inadequate for the carbon reduction promises made by our not-for-much -longer PM. Solar panels on every new building should be made mandatory. That would help!
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Trouble is you DON'T own the Batteries a third party do, Not Jag either!!
all this rubbish about air pollution , heres a few points

its takes 10 barrels oil to make a combustion engine cars, to make a battery car 25 barrels of oil, so more oil up front for materials, then

the power stations are currently running at 96% in Great Britain, if we all go to battery cars the national grid will shut down at 17:05 when we all get home from work . The grid cannot take it and more coal/wind, hydro is being shoved in to push out the Giga watts to the houses. * FROM THE TAIL PIPE TO THE COOLING TOWERS INSTEAD*

These are things the GB government is NOT telling us about. THE end of life CARS ALSO not in here when the cars ARE scrapped in years to come, battery cars are more environmentally worse than the good old combustion engine and will cost YOU to scrap it .

Battery cars will also add to the depletion of oils of plastics, so all things made of plastic will increase household costs, as the great oil fields like Ghawhar ( SAUDI ARABIA) deplete year after year , currently from 9 million barrels a day to just 4.5 million barrels of oil now from 1948 to 2019.

This depletion is NOT being replaced by new technology or new oil fields, Ghawhar field is currently pumping in millions of gallons of water per day to keep the oil pressure up, Battery cars are NOT the answer its a front only.

JAGUAR do not do it keep making beautiful cars with another means... be a class leader , not crowd follower.
The stuff coming from the cooling towers is nothing more than water vapour, the other stuff comes out of the chimney.
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The last real Jaguar shape XJ finished in 2009 - the latest XJ always looked clumsy to me, and the rear end was just awful. I am not surprised that Jaguar Land Rover is reported to be struggling, although I am sad that it is.

I would say that it is because of the shape, design and quality of the post-2008 Jaguars (XJ, XF, XKR, F-type) that JLR are still in the business of making cars. Had these cars not arrived when they did, JLR would have been dead as a car manufacturer.

Despite our love of the quaint, we should recgnise that the market wants cars that look and drive like Mercedes, BMW and Audi as opposed to Rover 75.
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