Vaccination-good news.

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by solarsailor

I can see what you're getting at, but things are never as simple as we'd sometimes like them to be.

The strength of the immune response between individuals varies greatly and for a variety of reasons. Someone who contracts covid and remains asymptomatic or has only mild symptoms will produce a low - maybe even immeasurable - antibody count. Generally speaking, someone who experiences severe symptoms will produce higher levels of antibodies but that's not always the case because age and other factors come into play. Also, in patients who become ill enough to need hospital treatment, covid is often so overpowering that the immune system becomes exhausted and is unable to adequately form its immune "memory" against any future infection.

If you take into account that antibodies produced naturally from having covid weaken over time, the best way to reduce infection rates (and also lessen the severity of covid in those who do get it) is to ensure that everyone has a high level of antibodies and the only way to achieve this is by giving as many people the vaccine as possible - regardless of whether or not they've had the virus before.

So, I guess what it boils down to is to be given anti-Covid injections on a regular basis for the rest of your life.--

I'm not sure how practical that would be though. ( Though Flu jabs are offered every year. )

I think I read somewhere that once your body has successfully fought of a virus it then, for the rest of your life, retains a memory of it. Any further infections by the same or similar virus induces a very quick response by the immune system. Your cells simply whip out the blue print and get cracking.----

[solarsailor]

Originally Posted by COLVERT

So, I guess what it boils down to is to be given anti-Covid injections on a regular basis for the rest of your life.--

I'm not sure how practical that would be though. ( Though Flu jabs are offered every year. )

I think I read somewhere that once your body has successfully fought of a virus it then, for the rest of your life, retains a memory of it. Any further infections by the same or similar virus induces a very quick response by the immune system. Your cells simply whip out the blue print and get cracking.----

Your body will indeed retain its immune memory of any virus for life, either from an actual infection or from a vaccine and the body's response is triggered when that virus is recognised. But viruses mutate, some to the point where the body no longer recognises them - like the flu virus, which is why a jab is needed yearly. However, even though all viruses mutate they don't all do it in the same way or at the same speed. Once you've had mumps or measles (or the vaccine for them) protection should be for life, whereas a tetanus jab for example is good for about 11 years.

We already know that covid is mutating, but studies will need to be carried out on whether these mutations will have any effect on how long the vaccine will keep people protected.

[Caulkhead]

Imagine what our death toll would be if Mr Johnson didn’t have people around him taking calm, reasonable decisions and actions. Our government have made no mistakes and done everything to keep us safe and protect the NHS. He is so honest and trustworthy. It is so helpful to never back down, not like that lot with leaders reflecting, realising their actions were wrong, and changing course. Why can’t they always get it right first time? It’s only a pandemic, no pressure!

Time to get the schools open for a day again. What did you say......IDIOTS, but not total like that lot!

[COLVERT]

Originally Posted by Caulkhead

Imagine what our death toll would be if Mr Johnson didn’t have people around him taking calm, reasonable decisions and actions. Our government have made no mistakes and done everything to keep us safe and protect the NHS. He is so honest and trustworthy. It is so helpful to never back down, not like that lot with leaders reflecting, realising their actions were wrong, and changing course. Why can’t they always get it right first time? It’s only a pandemic, no pressure!

Time to get the schools open for a day again. What did you say......IDIOTS, but not total like that lot!

I feel OK now----Just come back from puking in the corner.- Avoid this place.

Thought it might be the virus or maybe something else I've just ( a moment ago ) ingested.----------------------

[KWIL]

As a former Contracts person, I do not think the EU has a leg to stand on. AZ's contract appears to say it all, "Best efforts"

That is exactly what AZ is doing, trying to correct the Belgian plant's inability to produce product at a sustainable rate, yields always vary, the problem is the unelected EC hierarchy do not understand or want to understand the complexities. "Toys out of prams" springs to mind.

Being undemocratic with a toothless so called parliament, the Commision has demonstrated to the whole world its inability to live in the real world. The Founding Fathers of the EU sort to ensure Europe's propensity to tear itself apart should never happen again, we now see the rise of a Jackboot mentality happening agin.

[COLVERT]

Quote:---KWIL----As a former Contracts person, I do not think the EU has a leg to stand on. AZ's contract appears to say it all, "Best efforts.

Absolutely. They seem quite often not to know what they are doing.

Too many trying to come to a decision, maybe.







PS.---Sought rather than sort.--------------

[KWIL]

Colvert, you are so correct, they do need sorting out!

[steve-45]

I’ve just seen a news article suggesting that prison inmates and warders should be put on the vaccination priority list as they their infection levels are high and they cannot socially distance.

I can see a certain amount of resentment if criminals get priority treatment over the general public.

[planenut]

Originally Posted by steve-45

I’ve just seen a news article suggesting that prison inmates and warders should be put on the vaccination priority list as they their infection levels are high and they cannot socially distance.

I can see a certain amount of resentment if criminals get priority treatment over the general public.

Sadly, if they become ill, it will be the NHS that has to look after them, and that's without the numerous escorting staff that will be required.

Not an easy decision.

[steve-45]

I wonder how many of these pragmatises would be will to give up one of their parents vaccinations to support this campaign?