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Old 24th February 2021, 16:48   #681
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He was also on GMB this morning and even Piers Morgan shut up and listened without interrupting. !!


Ha, ha, for a moment I thought it read that Morgan listened.

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Old 27th February 2021, 09:25   #682
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Had my jab Tuesday and I too found the staff to be very nice, fun in fact. Bit of laugh

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Old 27th February 2021, 09:46   #683
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Where I had mine done they had army medics running the show.

Very well organised and couldn’t have been more professional
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Old 27th February 2021, 10:30   #684
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They are all so nice as everybody can see the point of it.

Luckily, I think, I have not come across any people not wanting the jab despite what the media says.
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Old 27th February 2021, 13:20   #685
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According to reports from across the country and all newspapers and widespread media outlets, there have up to yesterday been approaching 20 million vaccines administered. A huge operation and a credit to all the staff involved.

With a population of some 68 million (a conservative(?) estimate. That amounts to 29%. Given the exhortations from the centre and hugely supportive similar enthusiasm from official commentators across the subject, that's less than an endorsing success story. Over 2/3rds not 'done' with no questions asked of those declining. How on Earth can a groundswell in favour be confidently predicted? It does us all no service at all to exaggerate these things and indeed is dangerous.

It's not even including the huge number of 'under the radar' population of illegal immigrants and many others in our varied city centres and outside the legitimate census figures. Just saying.

It's not very helpful, in an effort to present glowing figures, to fail to see the fuller picture. For example, in the current rejection of the reporting of mortality rates from certain hospitals.

It is now becoming apparent, due to inaccuracy regarding pre-existing and life-threatening conditions being downgraded, that such figures may be substantially inaccurate. Especially when the patient has been Covid-free until immediately preceding death. It puts all future figures in doubt and is leading to dangerous precedents.
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Old 27th February 2021, 15:27   #686
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I have said before that I could watch a full interview with Professor Jonathan Van-Tam, and Sky news has just done that. Very interesting and informative.

Stay safe and don't assume that when you've had a jab, you're clear. We've still got a way to go.
Watching the BBC news yesterday they reported that lots of folk were saying----I've just had the jab so I can now go out and socialise again now that I'm immune.--

These folk think that the vaccine will fight off any attack by the Covid virus. Where on earth do they get these ideas ???

The vaccine doesn't fight anything !!!!!!!!!!!!!

The vaccine is an inert form of Covid. Yes, this is what is being injected into your body.--

It fools your body into thinking that it's being attacked by a living virus.--The bodies reaction to this is to start your internal anti-virus factory to search for a suitable anti-virus and to put it into production.

Thus, when you end up being infected, and you will, your body will be ready with an army of anti-bodies geared up to attack this particular virus.--However these anti-bodies take a while to be manufactured inside you. The general consensus seems to be about three weeks.

The anti-bodies don't stop you from being infected, they simply help to reduce the effects of the virus on the various organs inside you.

After the vaccine YOU DON'T BECOME IMMUNE !!

So many people are under the impression that you do.-
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Old 27th February 2021, 18:09   #687
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The vaccine is an inert form of Covid. Yes, this is what is being injected into your body.--
NO - the two vaccines currently used in the UK do not use attenuated SARS-CoV-2.

They use mRNA & DNA to instruct your cells to synthesize the virus' spike protein, so the immune system can encounter it and learn to deal with it. Then when the whole virus infects you, the immune system disables the virus' spikes so that it cannot get into your cells.

When a virus infects somebody their body produces copies of the virus. The vaccines enable somebody to produce the spikes only, which are harmless on their own.

I believe that there are some vaccines that use attenuated virus, possibly one of the Chinese ones, but not the two currently used in the UK.

There are plenty of published research papers available for free online from respected Journals which have a lot of good information on how the vaccines work.
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Interesting,---however the point I was trying to make was how many people have no idea what procedures are necessary after being injected.---At the time of the jab EVERYBODY should be given instructions on what they need to do next. It would only take a few seconds as they received their injection.--
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Quote:_Bolin.-They use mRNA & DNA to instruct your cells to synthesize the virus' spike protein,

How do they tell the cells "which" spike protein to synthesise ???---There must be billions available.--
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The vaccine is an inert form of Covid. Yes, this is what is being injected into your body.--
No, THIS is what's being injected into your body:

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