Braided brake hoses

EdgarDonaldBalls · 5th August 2019, 20:07

I'll be getting the solid brake lines replaced soon, it's not urgent but was an advisory on the MOT so getting it done.

I figured it would be worth replacing the flexi hoses with some braided items while it's getting done, because, why not.

I'm having a little trouble finding the right fitment though. the manufacturers don't seem to be able to decide whats what.

EBC list one type for all ZTs and one for all 75 but my ZT has the same brake setup as a 75 so surely the hoses would be the same, the ones they have for the ZT are probably for the 190 setup.

HEL, they have 2 for every engine option in the 75 and 2 for the ZT.

Goodridge, I have been advised to avoid them due to them using banjo bolts so they don't fit.

Can anybody point me in the right direction for a set of good braided hoses for a 2004 ZT CDTi saloon? It's a grey one, by the way (it may matter

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clf · 5th August 2019, 20:23

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Originally Posted by EdgarDonaldBalls

I'll be getting the solid brake lines replaced soon, it's not urgent but was an advisory on the MOT so getting it done.

I figured it would be worth replacing the flexi hoses with some braided items while it's getting done, because, why not.

I'm having a little trouble finding the right fitment though. the manufacturers don't seem to be able to decide whats what.

EBC list one type for all ZTs and one for all 75 but my ZT has the same brake setup as a 75 so surely the hoses would be the same, the ones they have for the ZT are probably for the 190 setup.

HEL, they have 2 for every engine option in the 75 and 2 for the ZT.

Goodridge, I have been advised to avoid them due to them using banjo bolts so they don't fit.

Can anybody point me in the right direction for a set of good braided hoses for a 2004 ZT CDTi saloon? It's a grey one, by the way (it may matter

)

I have a set of HEL, waiting to go on, and they look correct.

The 190 ones are slightly shorter. Rimmer's recently had 190 front hoses reduced to less than a tenner for rubber)

EdgarDonaldBalls · 5th August 2019, 21:24

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Originally Posted by clf

I have a set of HEL, waiting to go on, and they look correct.

The 190 ones are slightly shorter. Rimmer's recently had 190 front hoses reduced to less than a tenner for rubber)

I take it you have the standard brake setup then?

If so, do you have the part number for the HEL hoses?

clf · 6th August 2019, 00:05

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Originally Posted by EdgarDonaldBalls

I take it you have the standard brake setup then?

If so, do you have the part number for the HEL hoses?

no, I have the 190 set up.

If you want the one for the standard CDTi set up go with the 4 hose set HERE

If you have converted to 190 set up, go for the 2 for the fronts HERE (4.6) and the 2 for the rears HERE (1.8)

SCP440 · 6th August 2019, 07:08

Some Hydraulic hose makers will make them to order, the one local to me is great, I can drop the old ones in the morning and they are done in a couple of hours.

EdgarDonaldBalls · 6th August 2019, 12:49

I think it may be best to let my mechanic source the hoses, that way it's his problem if they're the wrong ones and if anything goes wrong with fitting them.

The place i'll be getting the work done are also an EBC reseller so I may be able to get a better deal on EBC hoses.

Since EBC have one part number for ALL ZTs and one for ALL 75s, I would assume some kind of foolishness on their part and that the ZT part is for the 190 and the 75 part will fit a standard ZT CDTi but there's no way to be sure without comparing the two so I'll just leave it to the mechanic.

RoverP480 · 6th August 2019, 12:53

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Mike Trident · 6th August 2019, 14:00

I would look into it a little before you decide, in my opinion they are not as good as the good old fashioned rubber hoses.

Look good on bikes, but can't even be seen on a car.

EdgarDonaldBalls · 6th August 2019, 17:39

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Originally Posted by Mike Trident

I would look into it a little before you decide, in my opinion they are not as good as the good old fashioned rubber hoses.

Look good on bikes, but can't even be seen on a car.

I was always lead to believe that stainless braided hoses were better but your comment and a bit of google-fu has lead me to question that.

I was told braided hoses would last pretty much forever but apparently that's not true and they are more likely to fail where they are crimped at the connectors due to the hose being stiffer and putting more stress on the connectors, It's also possible that they wear them selves out due to the metal braid rubbing on the teflon inner tube and on the outer sheath.

Due to the hoses on my car likely being 15 years old now, I think it's time to replace them since the solid brake lines are being changed but I will have to rethink going with braided hoses or a set of good quality (probably TRW) standard hoses.

trikey · 6th August 2019, 21:55

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Originally Posted by Mike Trident

I would look into it a little before you decide, in my opinion they are not as good as the good old fashioned rubber hoses.

Look good on bikes, but can't even be seen on a car.

Braided hose doesn’t expand under pressure as rubber does.

5th August 2019, 20:07	#1
EdgarDonaldBalls Avid contributor MG ZT CDTi XPower Grey Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Chester Posts: 153 Thanks: 31 Thanked 37 Times in 30 Posts	Braided brake hoses I'll be getting the solid brake lines replaced soon, it's not urgent but was an advisory on the MOT so getting it done. I figured it would be worth replacing the flexi hoses with some braided items while it's getting done, because, why not. I'm having a little trouble finding the right fitment though. the manufacturers don't seem to be able to decide whats what. EBC list one type for all ZTs and one for all 75 but my ZT has the same brake setup as a 75 so surely the hoses would be the same, the ones they have for the ZT are probably for the 190 setup. HEL, they have 2 for every engine option in the 75 and 2 for the ZT. Goodridge, I have been advised to avoid them due to them using banjo bolts so they don't fit. Can anybody point me in the right direction for a set of good braided hoses for a 2004 ZT CDTi saloon? It's a grey one, by the way (it may matter ) __________________ Born Friday, 9th April 2004 @ 09:54:49 This vehicle was the 14,388th ZT to run off the production line, out of 18,894 This vehicle was the 2,491st ZT CDTi + (135) to be made out of 4,184 This vehicle was the 2,113th ZT in XPower Grey (code: LEF) to be made out of 3,143 XPower Grey ZTs

6th August 2019, 12:49	#6
EdgarDonaldBalls Avid contributor MG ZT CDTi XPower Grey Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Chester Posts: 153 Thanks: 31 Thanked 37 Times in 30 Posts	I think it may be best to let my mechanic source the hoses, that way it's his problem if they're the wrong ones and if anything goes wrong with fitting them. The place i'll be getting the work done are also an EBC reseller so I may be able to get a better deal on EBC hoses. Since EBC have one part number for ALL ZTs and one for ALL 75s, I would assume some kind of foolishness on their part and that the ZT part is for the 190 and the 75 part will fit a standard ZT CDTi but there's no way to be sure without comparing the two so I'll just leave it to the mechanic. __________________ Born Friday, 9th April 2004 @ 09:54:49 This vehicle was the 14,388th ZT to run off the production line, out of 18,894 This vehicle was the 2,491st ZT CDTi + (135) to be made out of 4,184 This vehicle was the 2,113th ZT in XPower Grey (code: LEF) to be made out of 3,143 XPower Grey ZTs

6th August 2019, 14:00	#8
Mike Trident Posted a thing or two Rover 75 CDTi Saloon & Citroen C1 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Oakenshaw, Near Bradford Posts: 1,622 Thanks: 385 Thanked 552 Times in 328 Posts	I would look into it a little before you decide, in my opinion they are not as good as the good old fashioned rubber hoses. Look good on bikes, but can't even be seen on a car. __________________ Rover 75 2.0 CDTi (131Ps) Conn SE Saloon. (Manual) 160 Remap, cruise control, electric window blind, temp gauge, Real walnut / ZT interior, FBH with GSM control. BORN Tuesday, 5th October 2004 @ 12:35:52 This vehicle was the 104,679th 75 to run off the production line, out of 112,381 This vehicle was the 3,318th 75 CDT Connoisseur SE (135) to be made out of 4,744 This vehicle was the 12,440th 75 in Starlight Silver (code: MBB) to be made out of 14,280 Starlight Silver 75s

6th August 2019, 07:08	#5
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	Some Hydraulic hose makers will make them to order, the one local to me is great, I can drop the old ones in the morning and they are done in a couple of hours.

6th August 2019, 12:53	#7
RoverP480 Gets stuck in None at the moment Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Hereford Posts: 501 Thanks: 1 Thanked 165 Times in 146 Posts	I used Venhill for my motorcycle https://www.venhill.co.uk/