FBH pin3/pin1

Starman · 6th February 2009, 11:43

Hi all, I know I know its that time of year when you know you have one of these beauties and all the questions about parking/air con and telestarts pop up......

Well thanks to a few guys on here I know have a working FBH and would like to run a simple switch to turn it on from outside while I walk my dog..

I have earthed pin3.... nowt happens...

the loom in the car has a grey/green wire in pin 1...

No serial numbers on my FBH match up with the numbers mentioned in the forum (F98570D 449694 and 66724B on the front label) albeit there is a rover 75 sticker on the side of it..( ROVER JEC 104391) and years marked on its front..2005/6/7

Therefore is it possible for my FBH to work seemingly ok if it has an earlier programe type with a later loom....?

dont know if I have explained myself very well there....

(If there is a 12v feed on pin 1... would the FBH fire up in test mode regardless of outside temp...?)

Ive only just got it all plumbed in and the outside temp hasn't been over 5deg yet!!

If anyone understands my ramblings any help is gratefully recieved....

Many thanks...

scgfull · 6th February 2009, 12:11

Hi Steve,

I have just fitted my FBH, purchased from RoverBreakers (absolute god send in this weather).

My worked fine once I got the fuel up the feed pipe into the heater, initially the FBH went into lockdown mode but after 'rebooting it' I managed to get it started.

The pin 3 is the one that is closest to the front of the car and at the engine side. As supplied it has a little blue rubber bung in the hole that will stop you getting a proper connection, have you removed this?

To test mine, I use a length of solid core wire (as used in wiring circuits in houses) I bared the end of this by about 35 mm and pushed it well into the hole in the plug. I then earthed the other end against one of the suspension turret bolts.

When connected you can hear it clearly trying to start. Using pin 3 in this manner will circumvent the alternator and temperature switch.

There is loads of good information deeper in the forum if you search for FBH, it may take a while to read through each thread but it is all good background stuff until you find what you are actually looking for.

All the best

Keith · 6th February 2009, 13:14

That is petunia

It should burst in to life with pin 3 earthed
Note you do need to keep it earthed all the time you want to keep it running

Have you removed the blue bung, are you definitely making contact with the pin?

Starman · 6th February 2009, 14:02

Hi guys and thanks for the response..

yep I took the bung out and used a thick piece of wire pushed through the bung and pushed it all the way home!

I'll have another go after I get me kids from school...

after a run around town just now I noted the FBH didnt start back up after I ad switched off.....mybe as the temp was hot enough!!!

cheers again..

Hi Keith hope you are all well, Mery New year

Starman · 8th February 2009, 23:40

all sorted

There was a break in the wire I was using to earth the pin 3...

you can call me numpty....

Cheers for the help guys..

scgfull · 9th February 2009, 07:55

As requested - You are a Numpty:lol:

Glad you got it sorted and that it was a simple cheap cure!

6th February 2009, 11:43	#1
Starman Posted a thing or two 03 CDTi Tourer Conn SE auto Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Shrewsbury Posts: 1,405 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts	FBH pin3/pin1 Hi all, I know I know its that time of year when you know you have one of these beauties and all the questions about parking/air con and telestarts pop up...... Well thanks to a few guys on here I know have a working FBH and would like to run a simple switch to turn it on from outside while I walk my dog.. I have earthed pin3.... nowt happens... the loom in the car has a grey/green wire in pin 1... No serial numbers on my FBH match up with the numbers mentioned in the forum (F98570D 449694 and 66724B on the front label) albeit there is a rover 75 sticker on the side of it..( ROVER JEC 104391) and years marked on its front..2005/6/7 Therefore is it possible for my FBH to work seemingly ok if it has an earlier programe type with a later loom....? dont know if I have explained myself very well there.... (If there is a 12v feed on pin 1... would the FBH fire up in test mode regardless of outside temp...?) Ive only just got it all plumbed in and the outside temp hasn't been over 5deg yet!! If anyone understands my ramblings any help is gratefully recieved.... Many thanks... __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

6th February 2009, 12:11	#2
scgfull Loves to post none Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: resigned - but can't get off Posts: 286 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hi Steve, I have just fitted my FBH, purchased from RoverBreakers (absolute god send in this weather). My worked fine once I got the fuel up the feed pipe into the heater, initially the FBH went into lockdown mode but after 'rebooting it' I managed to get it started. The pin 3 is the one that is closest to the front of the car and at the engine side. As supplied it has a little blue rubber bung in the hole that will stop you getting a proper connection, have you removed this? To test mine, I use a length of solid core wire (as used in wiring circuits in houses) I bared the end of this by about 35 mm and pushed it well into the hole in the plug. I then earthed the other end against one of the suspension turret bolts. When connected you can hear it clearly trying to start. Using pin 3 in this manner will circumvent the alternator and temperature switch. There is loads of good information deeper in the forum if you search for FBH, it may take a while to read through each thread but it is all good background stuff until you find what you are actually looking for. All the best __________________ Steve Memeber 4069 Last edited by scgfull; 6th February 2009 at 17:05.. Reason: 2 typos

6th February 2009, 14:02	#4
Starman Posted a thing or two 03 CDTi Tourer Conn SE auto Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Shrewsbury Posts: 1,405 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts	Hi guys and thanks for the response.. yep I took the bung out and used a thick piece of wire pushed through the bung and pushed it all the way home! I'll have another go after I get me kids from school... after a run around town just now I noted the FBH didnt start back up after I ad switched off.....mybe as the temp was hot enough!!! cheers again.. Hi Keith hope you are all well, Mery New year __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

8th February 2009, 23:40	#5
Starman Posted a thing or two 03 CDTi Tourer Conn SE auto Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Shrewsbury Posts: 1,405 Thanks: 0 Thanked 15 Times in 4 Posts	all sorted There was a break in the wire I was using to earth the pin 3... you can call me numpty.... Cheers for the help guys.. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

9th February 2009, 07:55	#6
scgfull Loves to post none Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: resigned - but can't get off Posts: 286 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	As requested - You are a Numpty:lol: Glad you got it sorted and that it was a simple cheap cure! __________________ Steve Memeber 4069

6th February 2009, 13:14	#3
Keith This is my second home ZT400 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ellesmere Posts: 5,948 Thanks: 0 Thanked 43 Times in 29 Posts	That is petunia It should burst in to life with pin 3 earthed Note you do need to keep it earthed all the time you want to keep it running Have you removed the blue bung, are you definitely making contact with the pin?