Rover 75 wheel size..and Could not get the wheel off

bilsan330 · 28th April 2020, 12:44

Firstly a word of warning...The tyre centres that change your tyres,,,do let them Hydraulic bolt back on the wheel......I had a puncture today simple thing you would have thought....Wrong Nightmare.

The tyre company that put a new tyre on some months back over tighten the lock wheel nut so tight not even the AA could unwind it. Nor could the garage now my car is having the wheel rim cut off....

My question is I have to get a new wheel where do I find the wheel size is it on the tyre. and are the locking wheel not security coded.

Thanks

Bill

drjonts · 28th April 2020, 13:02

Sorry to hear the news Bill...having a wheel cut off the car is a nightmare. Are they alloy wheels?

Wheel diameter will be the last part of the tyre size (e.g. 205/55/16 tyre fits as 16" diameter rim) but the width of the rim is likely to be on the inside of the wheel somewhere.

Can you post a picture of your wheels on here so that they can be identified by the folks on the forum?

Good luck?

Jonty

rrobson · 28th April 2020, 13:25

Wheel cut off??? Who suggested that?!
If the nut is damaged either weld another nut on if accessible and rattle off or drill the head off the bolt and remove once the wheels off!
That or put the other four bolts back in tight then attempt to remove.
Ive had a lot of luck in the past hammering a much smaller but good quality socket onto the offending stud and unwinding that way. Get a mate to batter the back of the knuckle / power bar while another is jumping on it. Should be absolutely no reason to cut the wheel off.

suzublu · 28th April 2020, 13:53

All the wheels here

surprisingskoda · 29th April 2020, 02:01

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Originally Posted by rrobson

Wheel cut off??? Who suggested that?!
If the nut is damaged either weld another nut on if accessible and rattle off or drill the head off the bolt and remove once the wheels off!
That or put the other four bolts back in tight then attempt to remove.
Ive had a lot of luck in the past hammering a much smaller but good quality socket onto the offending stud and unwinding that way. Get a mate to batter the back of the knuckle / power bar while another is jumping on it. Should be absolutely no reason to cut the wheel off.

I have seen many wheels where this is the only option left. It's the consequence of people with absolutely zero mechanical knowledge or sympathy being employed to do a safety-critical job for minimum wage by high street PLCs.

Brunty · 29th April 2020, 06:08

When I took Copperleaf to garage on Monday for new shockers there was a Renault with flat tyre, RAC had tried to get the wheel off and failed, someone else had welded onto the wheel nut and still unable to remove it. Mechanic said they always get the NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- jobs to sort out. Don't know how they will fix it. Common problem?

SCP440 · 29th April 2020, 07:31

I have also seen a wheel being cut off on a Peugeot , it was also a case of an over tightened locking bolt. They had tried several times to weld a nut but because it was in a deep recess they were struggling to get a good weld as the torch almost filled the hole.

The other option is drilling but you need a lot of patience and some very good drill bits.

In truth who needs locking wheel bolts these days? when did you last see a set of wheels get stolen? They are more likely to take the whole car.

mbrenn · 29th April 2020, 08:47

This is what I have successfully done on 2 occasions:
1. Place a 1 metre+ pipe over the wheelbrace and stand on the end. Moment of force = force x distance.
2. No pipe - place the wheel brace on the bolt and drive the car forward(?; a long time ago) so that the brace catches the ground and forces it to loosen.
Preference is no.1.
Hope this helps.

KWIL · 29th April 2020, 09:18

Had the overtightened problem with a fitter who used his expensive Snap-On electronic torque wrench.

Did not like it when I went back and invited him to remove nut , pointing out that he had seriously overtorqued it as shown by my mechanical wrench.

Francophile · 29th April 2020, 11:53

Several decades ago I succeeded in splitting a perfectly good socket, failing to change a wheel on a friend's Fiesta. Since then I always invite the fitter to release
and retighten the wheel nuts with the car's wheel brace, in my presence. Causes a few muttered imprecations, but it works a treat!

Derek.

28th April 2020, 12:44	#1
bilsan330 Avid contributor Rover 75 Estate Join Date: May 2015 Location: Ickenham Posts: 128 Thanks: 17 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Rover 75 wheel size..and Could not get the wheel off Firstly a word of warning...The tyre centres that change your tyres,,,do let them Hydraulic bolt back on the wheel......I had a puncture today simple thing you would have thought....Wrong Nightmare. The tyre company that put a new tyre on some months back over tighten the lock wheel nut so tight not even the AA could unwind it. Nor could the garage now my car is having the wheel rim cut off.... My question is I have to get a new wheel where do I find the wheel size is it on the tyre. and are the locking wheel not security coded. Thanks Bill

28th April 2020, 13:25	#3
rrobson I really should get out more....... 75 tourer cdti, MG ZS 180, nissan terrano & 1.8t rover 25 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pontefract Posts: 2,643 Thanks: 17 Thanked 295 Times in 218 Posts	Wheel cut off??? Who suggested that?! If the nut is damaged either weld another nut on if accessible and rattle off or drill the head off the bolt and remove once the wheels off! That or put the other four bolts back in tight then attempt to remove. Ive had a lot of luck in the past hammering a much smaller but good quality socket onto the offending stud and unwinding that way. Get a mate to batter the back of the knuckle / power bar while another is jumping on it. Should be absolutely no reason to cut the wheel off. __________________ How to view a car - everything you need to help you inspect a used car VIS motor tester avalible to local members Injector removal tool and auto gearbox pressure tester now available

28th April 2020, 13:02	#2
drjonts Loves to post MG ZT-T 160 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Devon Posts: 288 Thanks: 179 Thanked 70 Times in 53 Posts	Sorry to hear the news Bill...having a wheel cut off the car is a nightmare. Are they alloy wheels? Wheel diameter will be the last part of the tyre size (e.g. 205/55/16 tyre fits as 16" diameter rim) but the width of the rim is likely to be on the inside of the wheel somewhere. Can you post a picture of your wheels on here so that they can be identified by the folks on the forum? Good luck? Jonty

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29th April 2020, 06:08	#6
Brunty Loves to post Rover 75 Saloon Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Newtown Posts: 415 Thanks: 273 Thanked 95 Times in 65 Posts	When I took Copperleaf to garage on Monday for new shockers there was a Renault with flat tyre, RAC had tried to get the wheel off and failed, someone else had welded onto the wheel nut and still unable to remove it. Mechanic said they always get the NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD-NAUGHTY WORD- jobs to sort out. Don't know how they will fix it. Common problem?

29th April 2020, 07:31	#7
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	I have also seen a wheel being cut off on a Peugeot , it was also a case of an over tightened locking bolt. They had tried several times to weld a nut but because it was in a deep recess they were struggling to get a good weld as the torch almost filled the hole. The other option is drilling but you need a lot of patience and some very good drill bits. In truth who needs locking wheel bolts these days? when did you last see a set of wheels get stolen? They are more likely to take the whole car.

29th April 2020, 08:47	#8
mbrenn Loves to post Rover 75 Saloons Conn SE 2.0L V6 (2001) & Conn 2.0L CDTi (2003) Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dungannon Posts: 489 Thanks: 109 Thanked 110 Times in 100 Posts	This is what I have successfully done on 2 occasions: 1. Place a 1 metre+ pipe over the wheelbrace and stand on the end. Moment of force = force x distance. 2. No pipe - place the wheel brace on the bolt and drive the car forward(?; a long time ago) so that the brace catches the ground and forces it to loosen. Preference is no.1. Hope this helps.

29th April 2020, 09:18	#9
KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,952 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	Had the overtightened problem with a fitter who used his expensive Snap-On electronic torque wrench. Did not like it when I went back and invited him to remove nut , pointing out that he had seriously overtorqued it as shown by my mechanical wrench.

29th April 2020, 11:53	#10
Francophile Avid contributor Rover 75 2.0 V6 Connoisseur SE Saloon Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Hassocks, West Sussex Posts: 192 Thanks: 51 Thanked 24 Times in 15 Posts	Several decades ago I succeeded in splitting a perfectly good socket, failing to change a wheel on a friend's Fiesta. Since then I always invite the fitter to release and retighten the wheel nuts with the car's wheel brace, in my presence. Causes a few muttered imprecations, but it works a treat! Derek.