ZT 190 v ZT 180

Petetourer · 29th August 2012, 23:10

Hi all.....

Been doing a but if searching but either cannot find the info or I am getting confused!!

Can anyone tell me what (if any) differences there are between the engine in a ZT 180 and a ZT190... I know the map is different, but what about the engine

rover54 · 29th August 2012, 23:33

Same engine both have 190 cams.

MN190 · 29th August 2012, 23:33

I think the difference is its slightly de-tuned for the Auto box

Canonite · 30th August 2012, 08:29

The ZT 180 is the same unit as the 190 which have the same uprated cams.
The ZS 180 however is the same 177 unit as the 75....if I remember rightly.

As Ed says, detuned by a map. Not sure if its further restricted with the airbox or exhaust

Petetourer · 30th August 2012, 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canonite

The ZT 180 is the same unit as the 190 which have the same uprated cams.
The ZS 180 however is the same 177 unit as the 75....if I remember rightly.

As Ed says, detuned by a map. Not sure if its further restricted with the airbox or exhaust

Ok..... Now I am even more confused

I have searched the Tech Specs of both the ZS180 and the ZT180 on several websites....

The Figures of 177 Bhp and 240 nm of torque come up for both models

Is this really the case and if so why the uprated cams

If not has anyone got the Actual tech specs for the ZT 180

See Below for examples

http://www.carfolio.com/specificatio...car/?car=88308

http://www.xpowerforums.com/MG%20ZT180%20Auto%20Tech'.htm

Petetourer · 30th August 2012, 12:18

Arrghhhhh!!!!

Getting very confused now....

If you take a look here, at Chapter 10 (post 12) it seems to indicate that the 190 was the ONLY engine to have the uprated bits and the 180 did NOT have them

http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...t=75282&page=2

Someone help me here as I dont want to stick the wrong engine back in the car

MGMalc · 30th August 2012, 17:50

AFAIK the 180 engine is the same as a R75 2.5KV6 177bhp.

SARRJSLPBXM****** - Digit eight denotes the engine:

Engine:

E = 2.5 V6 (160PS) Petrol
F = 2.5 V6 (190PS) Petrol
G = 4.6 V8 Petrol
H = 2.0 Diesel
K = 2.0 V6 Petrol
L = 2.5 V6 Petrol
P = 1.8 Petrol
R = 1.8 T Petrol

Therefore if you have a 180 then digit 8 would be "L"

Some info from the dark side

HTH Malc.

rover54 · 30th August 2012, 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Malcolm

AFAIK the 180 engine is the same as a R75 2.5KV6 177bhp.

SARRJSLPBXM****** - Digit eight denotes the engine:

Engine:

E = 2.5 V6 (160PS) Petrol
F = 2.5 V6 (190PS) Petrol
G = 4.6 V8 Petrol
H = 2.0 Diesel
K = 2.0 V6 Petrol
L = 2.5 V6 Petrol
P = 1.8 Petrol
R = 1.8 T Petrol

Therefore if you have a 180 then digit 8 would be "L"

Some info from the dark side

HTH Malc.

Zt 180's are the same as ZT190, it is just the tune that is different. The VIN is not the comprehensive list of engine derivations and there are sub groups depending on what equipment is installed. I remember having this debate a few months ago and other more knowledgeable members informed me they were the same engine. I will look for the thread.

jn12 · 31st August 2012, 16:45

See attached

Not sure if it true after the dozens of experts and traders i asked.

John

29th August 2012, 23:10	#1
Petetourer This is my second home None at present Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Portishead Posts: 5,337 Thanks: 203 Thanked 246 Times in 194 Posts	ZT 190 v ZT 180 Hi all..... Been doing a but if searching but either cannot find the info or I am getting confused!! Can anyone tell me what (if any) differences there are between the engine in a ZT 180 and a ZT190... I know the map is different, but what about the engine __________________ My First Ever Rover!! A 2002 75 2.0 V6 Club SE Tourer Then a 2002 MG ZT-T CDTI + in Starlight Silver Then a 2003 ZT-T 2.5 V6 180 + in Royal Blue Then a 2002 Rover 75 2.0 CDTi Connie SE Then a 2003 ZT-T 2.0 CDTi + In Le Mans Green 2004 1.8T ZT-T + In Goodwood Green [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

30th August 2012, 12:18	#6
Petetourer This is my second home None at present Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Portishead Posts: 5,337 Thanks: 203 Thanked 246 Times in 194 Posts	Arrghhhhh!!!! Getting very confused now.... If you take a look here, at Chapter 10 (post 12) it seems to indicate that the 190 was the ONLY engine to have the uprated bits and the 180 did NOT have them http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...t=75282&page=2 Someone help me here as I dont want to stick the wrong engine back in the car __________________ My First Ever Rover!! A 2002 75 2.0 V6 Club SE Tourer Then a 2002 MG ZT-T CDTI + in Starlight Silver Then a 2003 ZT-T 2.5 V6 180 + in Royal Blue Then a 2002 Rover 75 2.0 CDTi Connie SE Then a 2003 ZT-T 2.0 CDTi + In Le Mans Green 2004 1.8T ZT-T + In Goodwood Green [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

30th August 2012, 17:50	#7
MGMalc Avid contributor MG ZT190+, MG ZT160(V6)Retired Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 162 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	AFAIK the 180 engine is the same as a R75 2.5KV6 177bhp. SARRJSLPBXM****** - Digit eight denotes the engine: Engine: E = 2.5 V6 (160PS) Petrol F = 2.5 V6 (190PS) Petrol G = 4.6 V8 Petrol H = 2.0 Diesel K = 2.0 V6 Petrol L = 2.5 V6 Petrol P = 1.8 Petrol R = 1.8 T Petrol Therefore if you have a 180 then digit 8 would be "L" Some info from the dark side HTH Malc. Last edited by MGMalc; 30th August 2012 at 17:53.. Reason: added link

29th August 2012, 23:33	#2
rover54 Retired rover 75 v6 Auto Conn. SE 54 plate LPG and 2006 Rover 75 v6 Auto LPG , 1.8 r75 Manual Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: London Posts: 3,379 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Same engine both have 190 cams.

29th August 2012, 23:33	#3
MN190 Posted a thing or two MG ZT 190+ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: North Norfolk Posts: 1,423 Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	I think the difference is its slightly de-tuned for the Auto box

30th August 2012, 08:29	#4
Canonite This is my second home BMW 330d Tourer, MG ZT 180 SE XPG, VW Polo 6R 1.2 TDI Bluemotion Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: York Posts: 6,030 Thanks: 363 Thanked 574 Times in 319 Posts	The ZT 180 is the same unit as the 190 which have the same uprated cams. The ZS 180 however is the same 177 unit as the 75....if I remember rightly. As Ed says, detuned by a map. Not sure if its further restricted with the airbox or exhaust