Spare parts availability?

biffa75 · 5th December 2020, 04:01

Hi folks,

Having taken delivery of some new parts for my 75 courtesy of dmgrs (thanks!)

I have had the thought having seen the genuine mg rover oil filter and box it arrived in...

What are spare parts availability really like, is there any reason within next 5-10 years that keeping a 75 in daily use will be virtually impossible or difficult?

On a side note, I have just come across this in the mg UK website, is this true?

https://mg.co.uk/owners/tips/faqs/i-...-can-you-help/

If it is true, that mg UK will continue to provide parts for xpart (if I understand correctly), what about the BMW based parts?.

Thanks
Rob

macafee2 · 5th December 2020, 07:32

Rover went out of business some years ago. When do you think the oil filter you bought was made and who do you think made it? What do you term genuine?
You can find a lot of stuff sold as genuine but apply the question above to the item.
What is genuine?

It will depend on what parts you need as to the viability of being able to run a 75. Breakers and specialists will play a massive part in keeping these cars in full working order and I am of the opinion if you have the space and love for these cars, tucking a non runner or two away is not a bad idea and nor is it a bad idea to stock up on "consumables".

macafee2

biffa75 · 5th December 2020, 08:33

Hi Macafee2

I understand rover went out of business years ago, as with most car manufacturers however they continue to supply spare parts for usually 10 years after production of that particular model has stopped. Not sure if this is the case for rover parts as unlike other car manufacturers, rover is no more, sadly.

What I'd say was genuine is something marked up as an mg rover part that arrives in an mg rover box. Instead of say Fram or mahle or starline etc.

Sound advice I must admit about buying perhaps an MOT failure example or non runner to keep for spare parts and again, stocking up consumable items, however are their certain parts that just cannot be bought anymore? Or is it like that within the next 5-10 years using a 75 as a daily driver will be difficult as more and more parts become harder to get hold of?
Bit of an hard question to answer perhaps but maybe a parts supplier for example may know when the genuine mg rover made or marked items stopped being made (if they have been stopped?) And leaving owners solely relying on aftermarket parts.

Rob

coolguy · 5th December 2020, 09:45

If you can afford Rimmers prices, you can virtually build one from scratch! Probably cheaper to buy and store some one to break.

macafee2 · 5th December 2020, 10:21

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Originally Posted by biffa75

Hi Macafee2

I understand rover went out of business years ago, as with most car manufacturers however they continue to supply spare parts for usually 10 years after production of that particular model has stopped. Not sure if this is the case for rover parts as unlike other car manufacturers, rover is no more, sadly.

What I'd say was genuine is something marked up as an mg rover part that arrives in an mg rover box. Instead of say Fram or mahle or starline etc.

Sound advice I must admit about buying perhaps an MOT failure example or non runner to keep for spare parts and again, stocking up consumable items, however are their certain parts that just cannot be bought anymore? Or is it like that within the next 5-10 years using a 75 as a daily driver will be difficult as more and more parts become harder to get hold of?
Bit of an hard question to answer perhaps but maybe a parts supplier for example may know when the genuine mg rover made or marked items stopped being made (if they have been stopped?) And leaving owners solely relying on aftermarket parts.

Rob

Rob,
If I make a part today and put it in an MG Rover looking box I do not consider it genuine, however parts are sold like that. Made "today" by a company that perhaps never supplied Rover, stuck in a box with a label and sold as genuine. Rimmers told me they class a part as genuine if it comes from X Part and so it seems it does not matter if it was made today by a company that never supplied Rover.

What does "genuine" do to the price

macafee2

macafee2 · 5th December 2020, 10:22

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Originally Posted by coolguy

If you can afford Rimmers prices, you can virtually build one from scratch! Probably cheaper to buy and store some one to break.

and the parts you remove may even be genuine

macafee2

Teflon · 5th December 2020, 10:38

I would hazzard a guess that "genuine MG Rover" spares are simply those that are supplied to, and approved by, Xpart (regardless of whether they were the original manufacturer of said part).

To my mind, the term "OEM" simply means that the part has the backing of Xpart and therefore should (in theory, but perhaps not always in practice) be of good quality.

Cliff

SD1too · 5th December 2020, 10:38

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Originally Posted by biffa75

What are spare parts availability really like, is there any reason within next 5-10 years that keeping a 75 in daily use will be virtually impossible or difficult?

Hi Rob,

Trim will be the first thing to disappear, if it hasn't already, followed by body electrical parts. You shouldn't have a problem with engine, transmission and suspension for some time yet so no need to stockpile consumables like oil filters since they're usually shared with other models anyway (for example Land Rover) keeping demand bouyant. In any case, the "genuine" parts in MG Rover boxes were usually made by contractors.

It wasn't until 30 years after my SD1 ceased production that I had difficulty obtaining a small number of parts but nothing which kept it off the road.

Having said all that, it seems that Europe has begun the transition to fully electric cars and, as most people will make the change for the very reason that you've voiced here, it follows that a large number of petrol and diesel cars of all makes and ages will disappear from the roads and thus demand for internal combustion engine parts and service will steadily decrease, but we're probably looking at fifteen to twenty years time. I'd say Rob just live for today and enjoy your Rover. Nothing is for ever.

Simon

SCP440 · 5th December 2020, 10:58

It depends on the demand and how much you are willing to pay for parts.

It is perfectly feasible to run a 50 year old car at the moment as long as enough fellow enthusiast's are also running there cars.

In my view the biggest restriction on our ICE cars in the future will be where we can take them without incurring extra costs.

Personally I think we will still have ICE powered vehicles for many more years but where we buy the fuel to put in them might be one of the problems if there is only 10% of them compared with the amount there is at the moment.

wraymond · 5th December 2020, 12:27

Where do many go for parts that are unobtainable or scarily expensive? Breakers, so they in fact are no more than second/third/fourth hand used parts.

The only thing stopping me from buying one or two cars for future reference is space and privacy to keep them under cover. Now, if I was a farmer...

I always thought that OEM meant Original Equipment Manufacture? Specifically not New Stock - this and all else was 'Pattern'.

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biffa75 Trader Mk1 2004 tourer cdti + MK1 2003 Saloon CDT Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 494 Thanks: 106 Thanked 91 Times in 57 Posts	Spare parts availability? Hi folks, Having taken delivery of some new parts for my 75 courtesy of dmgrs (thanks!) I have had the thought having seen the genuine mg rover oil filter and box it arrived in... What are spare parts availability really like, is there any reason within next 5-10 years that keeping a 75 in daily use will be virtually impossible or difficult? On a side note, I have just come across this in the mg UK website, is this true? https://mg.co.uk/owners/tips/faqs/i-...-can-you-help/ If it is true, that mg UK will continue to provide parts for xpart (if I understand correctly), what about the BMW based parts?. Thanks Rob

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Teflon This is my second home Lagoon 2.0 V6 75 Conn SE Saloon Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Chertsey Posts: 5,201 Thanks: 2,825 Thanked 2,920 Times in 1,570 Posts	I would hazzard a guess that "genuine MG Rover" spares are simply those that are supplied to, and approved by, Xpart (regardless of whether they were the original manufacturer of said part). To my mind, the term "OEM" simply means that the part has the backing of Xpart and therefore should (in theory, but perhaps not always in practice) be of good quality. Cliff __________________ No. 4 of 6

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wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,185 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	Where do many go for parts that are unobtainable or scarily expensive? Breakers, so they in fact are no more than second/third/fourth hand used parts. The only thing stopping me from buying one or two cars for future reference is space and privacy to keep them under cover. Now, if I was a farmer... I always thought that OEM meant Original Equipment Manufacture? Specifically not New Stock - this and all else was 'Pattern'. 26 days __________________ member no. 235

5th December 2020, 07:32	#2
macafee2 This is my second home Rover 75 Saloon & Tourer Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Lincoln Posts: 14,912 Thanks: 1,630 Thanked 3,032 Times in 2,181 Posts	Rover went out of business some years ago. When do you think the oil filter you bought was made and who do you think made it? What do you term genuine? You can find a lot of stuff sold as genuine but apply the question above to the item. What is genuine? It will depend on what parts you need as to the viability of being able to run a 75. Breakers and specialists will play a massive part in keeping these cars in full working order and I am of the opinion if you have the space and love for these cars, tucking a non runner or two away is not a bad idea and nor is it a bad idea to stock up on "consumables". macafee2

5th December 2020, 08:33	#3
biffa75 Trader Mk1 2004 tourer cdti + MK1 2003 Saloon CDT Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 494 Thanks: 106 Thanked 91 Times in 57 Posts	Hi Macafee2 I understand rover went out of business years ago, as with most car manufacturers however they continue to supply spare parts for usually 10 years after production of that particular model has stopped. Not sure if this is the case for rover parts as unlike other car manufacturers, rover is no more, sadly. What I'd say was genuine is something marked up as an mg rover part that arrives in an mg rover box. Instead of say Fram or mahle or starline etc. Sound advice I must admit about buying perhaps an MOT failure example or non runner to keep for spare parts and again, stocking up consumable items, however are their certain parts that just cannot be bought anymore? Or is it like that within the next 5-10 years using a 75 as a daily driver will be difficult as more and more parts become harder to get hold of? Bit of an hard question to answer perhaps but maybe a parts supplier for example may know when the genuine mg rover made or marked items stopped being made (if they have been stopped?) And leaving owners solely relying on aftermarket parts. Rob

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SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	It depends on the demand and how much you are willing to pay for parts. It is perfectly feasible to run a 50 year old car at the moment as long as enough fellow enthusiast's are also running there cars. In my view the biggest restriction on our ICE cars in the future will be where we can take them without incurring extra costs. Personally I think we will still have ICE powered vehicles for many more years but where we buy the fuel to put in them might be one of the problems if there is only 10% of them compared with the amount there is at the moment.