2001 ppd 2.0 v6 connie resto?

[biffa75]

Hi all,

Here goes.. ive owned my first rover 75 since november.. it has proved reliable despite it turning into a little nightmare with it turning into paddling pool of late ( hopefully!) Now sorted.

Heres the question though... its done 106k miles, the bodywork i would say is average with the milage few dinks and scratches but nothing too major.

Im debating wether to run it for another year and then p/x just before the mot runs out next year... or use this year to put things right ( not easy when saving up to buy the house we live in oh... and have a little one arriving soon!).

Rattle when revved ( believe this could be the cat thats broken up inside as there a massive wwhoooaaa at around 3-3.5k rpm when it shoves you back into your seat! So no loss in power i presume.

Cat. Needs replacing
Oil catch tanks x2 (to prevent damage or oil build up) currently having oil pee'ing from the throttle body and a whiff of blue smoke on cold startup even when the throttle is blipped and remains for a few minutes before it begins to clear itself. Believe the oil is building up bwhind the flaps in the manifold?...
Rear drop links (have but not fitted)
Rear upper suspension arms are rotting through only just passed mot by the skin of my teeth as the mot tester said get them changed before the next mot is due as they are begining to pin hole.
Full service of all fluids and filters
Replace the plastic clips and chrome trim ariund the rear screen ( slightly damaged when sealing the screen during the leaking phase recently..

In short.. it needs
New cat and mid section
Oil catch tanks fitting
Rear upper suspension arms
Front lower suspeion arms ( bushes going)
Bits of ttim and odd sets of clips

I plan on doing the cat first.. if in wrong and the rattle continues and it points to the inlet manifold flaps being an issue then being faced with any one job being over 500 pound and ill be waving the 75 goodbye as i dont see the financial sense then..

Catch tanks to prevent possible damage to the flaps if they are okay affer the cat has been changed..

2 drop rear subframe, strip and paint and wax coat, new droplinks and rear upper arms and strip and paint and wax the lower arms.

Full service and replace all filters
Change driveshaft oil seal ( weaping on passenger side as the drive shaft enters the gearbox.)

Question is... is it worth doing it?. . Its a pre project drive example real wood, wmbossed headrests etc etc
The previous owner within the last 10k miles has had..

A new complete clutch kit fitted
All belts chagned! (Wow expensive!)
And regular coolant flushes and service work done.. including a full and rather extensive rust treatment carried out i believe at rustmaster??.

Really i am after oppinions as beng a father is new to me but so is the 75 and i dont want to run us into financial ruin by trying to fix a car that may continue to present issue after issue... or simply put money into a car that is then... not worth it at all financially or mentally make sense to others..

Thanks
Rob

[biffa75]

Also its a manual,
I have had the dreaded.. jerky drive when changing out or into gear and generally a rather harsh driving experience due to a failed lower engine mount ? Was in to bits when changed over)... however.. nothings really changed its still jerky when changing gear especially when cold even when trying to change gear steadily at low engine rpm it still lurches and clunks which im sure of what else could be causing this..

Thanks
Rob

[SideValve]

Depends really on how much you enjoy the car vs how much you can afford it. All cars throw up expenses so buying something else, whatever it is, is no guarantee of avoiding bills. 1.8 and diesels are cheaper to run but not necessarily cheaper to repair / maintain.
A Rover 25 is likely to be a lot cheaper, good with a small family.
A 75 can be a thing of beauty and a joy for ever - also important with a small family 😆

[biffa75]

I do enjoy the car dont get me wrong.. theres a few thing i think weren't goven quite the right amount of attention in the build process where other manufacturers seem to hit the few basics rover missed slightly... thats by the by as its easily remedied either way.

I paid 750 quid for the car in november and after fitting the rear arms, drop links all round, front lower engine mout.. and then front discs and pads etc it will owe me around 500 quid before a service is even done which it will need a couple of thousand miles. It does feel like a good strong example that will undoubtedly give me no real mechanical breakdowns. ( a lot is just through previous owners neglect or age really).

To anyone else do putting 500-600 in to a rover 75 v6 sound like financial suicide?

Thanks
Rob

[biffa75]

Well... having thought about it and having done a bit of searching around and the faults with other manufcaturers etc such as the ease of obtaining parts... the rover is staying.

Plus.. it is an achingly nice car! And the upside to why i bought it is... its like a classic car but modern enough for reliability with oomph for when its needed which can be funny when it catches people out.

So... here goes..

I have a rattling catalytic converter ( hope it is!) So i have orderer a full exhaust system (mid section isnt great and back box os a bosal) so went for what the budget could allow ( klarius) full system.
Now also... an alloy red catch tank kit from ebay. Hopefully these two should aid reliability and not be a cause for concern for sometime .

Just thought id update. It should all be here for wednesday so will update when its here and fitted.

Rob

[Nick Greg]

To anyone else do putting 500-600 in to a rover 75 v6 sound like financial suicide?

In theory its illogical but I dare not add up what I have spent. Vastly more than what its worth for sure. But its become a matter of principle for me. Surely saving a nice car from the scrapheap is a noble thing to do? In our thowaway society its chuck it and get a new one all the time. However I saw potential in my car and declined to do that. Its not 100% yet but not far off and I now have the most pleasurable car journey to work and back (30 miles of bliss a day) I have ever had. To me thats worth the investment.Last 2 MOT's straight through etc.Dunno whether I'd have the stomach to do it again but this ones a keeper for me for some time to come.

[biffa75]

Thanks for the reply and it has encouraged my decission to stick with the rover.
As a side note, the mid section of the exhaust arrived yesterday.. currently waiting on the cat and back box to arrive and im then hoping the "metalic" tinkling noise will vanish.
Its been making a 'knackered baffles or heatshield rattle' type sounds for a while which appears to become a little worse when the engine is warm. I guessed its down to the cat being broken inside as its coming from around the front area somewhere. Fingers are crossed its the cat!
Would a knackered inlet manifold make this type of noise or is it different?. It has plenty of get up and go from around 3.5krpm.

Thanks
Rob

[biffa75]

Well... today has ended on a bit of a downer... cat still hasnt turned up and the oil catch tank kit from ebay was a complete waste of time.. theres absolutely no room at all to fit one.. cruise control thing gets in the way ( between bulkhead and battery box ( fouls on the inlet manifold too).. drivers side bulkhead has the vaccum valve thing and the throttle cable and a few other bits in the way..

Id really like to fit a catch tank having seen the pool of oil sitting inside the rubber tube under the air box and the throttle body was dripping with oil. Mainly id like one just for peace of mind that i have done everything possible to limit the possibility of the inlet manifold giving an issue. But it seems im unable to fit one... are they actually proven to reduce or even eliminate inlet manifold damage?

Thanks
Rob