Idling drivers higher fines

Dallas · 22nd October 2019, 17:35

Just seen this on TV...

I didn't even know this fine existed

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/i...ment-crackdown

Also...

Earn money by reporting idling drivers...

Russel · 22nd October 2019, 17:47

Just another tax(fine) on drivers

clf · 22nd October 2019, 18:01

...... was this not always a rule/law ? Perhaps not strictly enforced.

Les4048 · 22nd October 2019, 18:14

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Originally Posted by clf

...... was this not always a rule/law ? Perhaps not strictly enforced.

Yes, it states toughen up and not before time but there are so many rules they can’t all realistically be enforced

bl52krz · 22nd October 2019, 21:05

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Originally Posted by Russel

Just another tax(fine) on drivers

No, not really. If you lived by a school, and even now before it gets colder, motorists sit waiting for their children for half an hour before they exit the school, when the wind is blowing the fumes into your house. Ignorant, thoughtless people.

Devilish · 29th October 2019, 00:21

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Originally Posted by Russel

Just another tax(fine) on drivers

Could not agree more Russel.

How many people (although I agree they have a point) have seen cars ticking over near a school has NOTHING to do with it whatsoever.

Council's could not care less about child health or safety.

Chris Grayling, Transport Secretary, said:

We are determined to crack down on drivers who pollute our communities by leaving their engines running, particularly outside school gates where our children are breathing in this toxic air.

I can smell that from where I am.
Anyone who believes that load of rubbish, or the fact that it has nothing to do with raking in millions in motorist fines is deluded, or at the very least not worried sick about their kids crossing the road with no warden.

All the if's and but's are what councils could do, instead of cracking down on fines that are being missed out on, and raising them into the bargain.

The same upstanding pillars of our communities are happy to axe school crossing wardens services. The school crossing wardens job outside our village infant school has just been axed.

So it is ok for a child to get knocked down or killed crossing the road outside our village infant school, as long as the child was not "breathing in this toxic air" at the time.

Makes me sick.

wraymond · 29th October 2019, 09:55

I'm fascinated by the expense involved in this one particular activity. National coverage by all of the media, rows in parliament and hopeless virtue signallers waving by do-gooders (as if there wasn't enough already), signage, training, advertising and so much more. All of it ineffective because so many believe the message is not for them because they 'will only be a minute'.

All it takes is one teacher, or similar official, with a lollipop type sign to patrol for 15 minutes at the right time of day along the pavement. With large camera in hand (not a phone, it has to be intimidating) and obviously discouraging the imminent destruction of mankind it wouldn't take long to stop it - at no cost.

Local councils, if they were in any way effective or really concerned, could install small bollards and double yellows to stop kerb parking. Traffic wardens could get their daily dozen, all in about 1/2 an hour, then stroll away with their ravenous hunger satisfied. Local Authority coffers would be replete and free TV licences could be reinstated for pensioners. Maybe.

mileshawk56 · 29th October 2019, 13:35

And Im still amazed why any driver would think it is acceptable to run their engine other than when actually driving! But Im also amazed at pavement parkers and the "justification" given by drivers. But I am sure drivers will carry on doing these things because? well no one stops them. Chris.S.

Comfortably Numb · 29th October 2019, 19:50

Re-starting a modern car engine, diesel or petrol uses far less fuel than leaving it idling for 30seconds. When was the last time you pushed the accelerator to the floor while turning the key? Even for most old, carburettor cars, this was unneccesary, and caused as much wear and pollution as revving the engine before switching off to ensure the combustion chambers were charged with fuel for the next re-start.

dattrike · 22nd October 2019, 18:08

Hmm,
Bright Blue, " right wing" think tank encouraging people to inform on each other, where have I read about that sort of behaviour before? 😱😱

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mileshawk56 Posted a thing or two MGZT Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Berkshire Posts: 1,281 Thanks: 1,738 Thanked 299 Times in 216 Posts	And Im still amazed why any driver would think it is acceptable to run their engine other than when actually driving! But Im also amazed at pavement parkers and the "justification" given by drivers. But I am sure drivers will carry on doing these things because? well no one stops them. Chris.S.

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