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Old 1st May 2021, 19:42   #11
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Quote, SCP440---The wife on the other hand would have '' a man in'' to do everything that does not get done 30 seconds after she has mentioned it.][/COLOR]


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Old 1st May 2021, 19:49   #12
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I do and have done lots of DIY. Nowadays it takes ages and I hate paying people to do something I can do. Plastering and bricklaying are beyond me.
It seems our next venture I will do the preparatory work and then "professionals" will do the fancy work. Having a professional install central heating worries me as a poor install will creak and an electrician will not put cables in conduit.


Daughter had a kitchen installed, the drawer runners only have 2 screws per runner holding the runner to the carcass.

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---You must put on your foreman's hat and make sure he puts felt around the heating pipes where they come in contact with something else.

Same with conduit.--Tell them to fit it.--Or out the door.---
But isn't that the point?

You're paying a "professional" to do a professional job. You shouldn't need to say anything about what to do/use/consider etc.

What happens if you have no knowledge or understanding of the "intricacies" of what they are doing or, more importantly, are supposed to be doing - such as wrapping felt around heating pipes?

That's their job - it's their profession - That's (partly) why you're paying them lots of £££'s to do the job.

How many professional mechanics know the true attention to detail required to change the belts on a V6 and for them to be perfect until the next change is due?
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How many professional mechanics know the true attention to detail required to change the belts on a V6 and for them to be perfect until the next change is due?
Mate of mine is an old school mechanic, rather repair than replace. He's semi retired now, too many years of crawling under cars has knackered his back. He's worried that the majority of young "mechanics" have no idea how to investigate a problem without a plug in diagnostic tool to point directly at the cause and a computer programme to tell them what to do about it
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Mate of mine is an old school mechanic, rather repair than replace. He's semi retired now, too many years of crawling under cars has knackered his back. He's worried that the majority of young "mechanics" have no idea how to investigate a problem without a plug in diagnostic tool to point directly at the cause and a computer programme to tell them what to do about it

And therein lies a massive problem, just biding its time, waiting until it's time to well and truly bite us on the backside.
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And therein lies a massive problem, just biding its time, waiting until it's time to well and truly bite us on the backside.
It is already biting some people, a friends Golf has had a intermittent bad running problem for a couple of months. The garage who looked into had replaced the air flow sensor with no improvement, a new set of coils and plugs and finally a Lambda sensor. He asked me to look at it and it was obvious if you looked at the live data the cam position sensor was getting an intermittent signal. No fault code but when an engine is spinning at 775rpm and the cam is showing 300 to 350 rpm unless the cam chain has snapped it has to be that sensor.

I have told him to tell the garage about there cr4p diagnosis and see if he can claim some money back that he has spent (£450ish ) as the new cam sensor was only £30.

The Garage is a VW specialist supposedly and my guess is that the parts they have replaced are the usual problems.
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Great comments, I also live in a village and know professionals who really know what they are doing. I also resent paying people to do what I can, and generally don't. There are occasions when time and other commitments lead you to pay up.

Someone else will probably paint my windows this summer for the first time. I just have other things to do and I've known the guy for over 30 years.

I did the HPFP and hydromount myself (thanks to the help on this forum) because the labour charge was going to be substantial and I had access to a garage at the time.

It doesn't have to be a constant rule to DIY, circumstances alter decisions.

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It is already biting some people, a friends Golf has had a intermittent bad running problem for a couple of months. The garage who looked into had replaced the air flow sensor with no improvement, a new set of coils and plugs and finally a Lambda sensor. He asked me to look at it and it was obvious if you looked at the live data the cam position sensor was getting an intermittent signal. No fault code but when an engine is spinning at 775rpm and the cam is showing 300 to 350 rpm unless the cam chain has snapped it has to be that sensor.

I have told him to tell the garage about there cr4p diagnosis and see if he can claim some money back that he has spent (£450ish ) as the new cam sensor was only £30.

The Garage is a VW specialist supposedly and my guess is that the parts they have replaced are the usual problems.
Doesn't the camshaft normally run at half engine speed ??
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Doesn't the camshaft normally run at half engine speed ??
Yes exactly, the fact that the information was saying it was running at a slower speed meant the sensor was not picking up every pulse.
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But isn't that the point?

You're paying a "professional" to do a professional job. You shouldn't need to say anything about what to do/use/consider etc.

What happens if you have no knowledge or understanding of the "intricacies" of what they are doing or, more importantly, are supposed to be doing - such as wrapping felt around heating pipes?

That's their job - it's their profession - That's (partly) why you're paying them lots of £££'s to do the job.

How many professional mechanics know the true attention to detail required to change the belts on a V6 and for them to be perfect until the next change is due?
If you assume that everybody doing a job for you will do it perfectly you will always be disappointed.--Professional or not, if it's not being done to your requirements then that's the time to speak up and not complain afterwards when it's too late.

I ran building sites for many years and one of my jobs was quality control.

I found there was a need to carefully control all types of tradesmen nearly all of the time.

Thinking' I've paid good money for a job' is a recipe for disaster for a very large number of so-called tradesmen if you think their work will be perfect.---
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