differences between MKI & MKII?

MJx220 · 21st March 2015, 09:27

Hi all,
Trying to make an informed decision on a car, not because I'm looking to buy right this second but because when I do come to buy in a few months time I'll know exactly what to look for

So could anybody bullet point the differences between the MKI & MKII 75 and ZT? Although from what I know at the minute I wouldn't mind a MKI ZT as much as I would mind a MKI 75 due to the fact said ZT doesn't look as out dated as said 75

Regards,
Michael.

Jordan Apex · 21st March 2015, 10:02

pretty much just the bumper and headlights, although there was a change to the thermostat (i think) on the 1.8 at some point but people with more understanding of that engine will be able to tell you when and the pros and cons of each.

If you get a really early 75 i.e. before a point in 2001 it will be pre project drive which was basically a money saving scheme so they had some nice detailed touches on them that were later deleted. There is a thread called pre project drive illustrated if you want to search that to find out exact details.

Apart from those there isn't much different at all, you can even change the bumpers and headlights from either mk to the other if you so wish

KWIL · 21st March 2015, 10:06

I just do not like the Mk2 front bumper, looks horrible to me, but then like everything else in life, its personal.

B12VEE · 21st March 2015, 10:14

The running gear in essence never changed so all the engines and gearboxes are the same.

Remember the 1.8T came out about 2002 ish.

The rest is down to saving money and trim choices etc.

The Club and Club SE was dropped in the facelift and all these adverts where they claim the car is top spec are normally wrong.

One thing that makes them think this is the 75/ZT don't have any blank switchs on show so hence the thought its top spec.

The rest is down to looks and if you want a car with the cost savings or not.

sjc · 21st March 2015, 10:16

Differences ? Massive . A pre-project car will feel special , a cost cutting late car will just feel .. Well like a car really . I'm truly shocked at the difference between my previous PPD 75 and my 36k mile 54 plate. It's only when you have experience of both that you truly realise what a difference there is. My early car could compete with anything materials and refinement wise, my current one feels like it was aimed at the rep market .. Which by then it probably was.Project drive completely destroyed the whole ethos of the brand.

Jordan Apex · 21st March 2015, 10:23

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Originally Posted by sjc

Differences ? Massive . A pre-project car will feel special , a cost cutting late car will just feel .. Well like a car really . I'm truly shocked at the difference between my previous PPD 75 and my 36k mile 54 plate. It's only when you have experience of both that you truly realise what a difference there is. My early car could compete with anything materials and refinement wise, my current one feels like it was aimed at the rep market .. Which by then it probably was.Project drive completely destroyed the whole ethos of the brand.

important to add though that not all MK1 cars are pre project drive so you can still get a MK1 that is the same as your 54 plate

chris75 · 21st March 2015, 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJx220

I wouldn't mind a MKI ZT as much as I would mind a MKI 75 due to the fact said ZT doesn't look as out dated as said 75

Regards,
Michael.

Wash your mouth out ! The "outdated" look is what it is all about

There is a rumour that Facelift cars were made in a Ford factory .....

Paulifa1 · 21st March 2015, 11:04

I've owned 5 75's now, ranging from my current 99 launch car to a late 2002 entirely post project drive model, the earlier the car, the nicer it's felt.

I've also test driven some of the later Mk2 cars and was surprised at how much more ordinary they felt

A combination of thinner carpets, less/cheaper soundproofing, plain rubber door seals rather than felt lined, and myriad other slightly cheaper built parts adds up to change the feel of the car considerably.

The other side of the coin is, the earlier the car the more carefully you need to check it for corrosion, purely just as a result of time really. Looked after 75's generally don't rust much at all due to the galvanised body, but can sometimes rust locally at the rear lower bottom sill area. Bonnets also rust through sometimes at the left or right leading edge.

roverbarmy · 21st March 2015, 11:34

You could always do what I did. Buy a late model, low mileage facelift and retro fit goodies that were cheapened, omitted or lost from the earlier models (for whatever reason?).

That way, you get the best of both worlds.

Mike

burchy182 · 21st March 2015, 11:43

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Originally Posted by roverbarmy

You could always do what I did. Buy a late model, low mileage facelift and retro fit goodies that were cheapened, omitted or lost from the earlier models (for whatever reason?).

That way, you get the best of both worlds.

Mike

It'd be interesting to see your car as I too have a facelift model and I'd be interested to see what you've done. And I'm only down the road ....... Are you going to the King's Lynn meet next month?

21st March 2015, 09:27	#1
MJx220 Avid contributor ZT 131+ CDTi Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Wisbech Posts: 196 Thanks: 36 Thanked 30 Times in 17 Posts	differences between MKI & MKII? Hi all, Trying to make an informed decision on a car, not because I'm looking to buy right this second but because when I do come to buy in a few months time I'll know exactly what to look for So could anybody bullet point the differences between the MKI & MKII 75 and ZT? Although from what I know at the minute I wouldn't mind a MKI ZT as much as I would mind a MKI 75 due to the fact said ZT doesn't look as out dated as said 75 Regards, Michael. __________________ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...48f56c9f25.jpg So this is my new baby, once I (hopefully) pass my driving test on just the 15th you should see me at many meets

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Jordan Apex This is my second home Jaguar XFR 2011MY Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Harlow Posts: 6,363 Thanks: 19 Thanked 816 Times in 759 Posts	pretty much just the bumper and headlights, although there was a change to the thermostat (i think) on the 1.8 at some point but people with more understanding of that engine will be able to tell you when and the pros and cons of each. If you get a really early 75 i.e. before a point in 2001 it will be pre project drive which was basically a money saving scheme so they had some nice detailed touches on them that were later deleted. There is a thread called pre project drive illustrated if you want to search that to find out exact details. Apart from those there isn't much different at all, you can even change the bumpers and headlights from either mk to the other if you so wish __________________ Now sold! http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/x...psd81417f5.jpg

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sjc Posted a thing or two MG ZT-T 180 Sports +, 2007 completely restored XJ 4.2 LWB Sovereign,Noble M400,LR Discovery 3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Little Baddow Posts: 1,315 Thanks: 65 Thanked 148 Times in 70 Posts	Differences ? Massive . A pre-project car will feel special , a cost cutting late car will just feel .. Well like a car really . I'm truly shocked at the difference between my previous PPD 75 and my 36k mile 54 plate. It's only when you have experience of both that you truly realise what a difference there is. My early car could compete with anything materials and refinement wise, my current one feels like it was aimed at the rep market .. Which by then it probably was.Project drive completely destroyed the whole ethos of the brand. __________________ The 75... " It's lovely isn't it ? Makes you wonder why people are obsessed with modern rubbish". Tiff Needell

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roverbarmy This is my second home Roverless + 1.7D Sportage Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: East Norfolk Posts: 7,050 Thanks: 729 Thanked 2,021 Times in 1,449 Posts	You could always do what I did. Buy a late model, low mileage facelift and retro fit goodies that were cheapened, omitted or lost from the earlier models (for whatever reason?). That way, you get the best of both worlds. Mike __________________ Oil in my veins!

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KWIL Precise Rover 75 Tourer 2.5KV6 Connoisseur SE Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Fleet Posts: 2,954 Thanks: 630 Thanked 617 Times in 480 Posts	I just do not like the Mk2 front bumper, looks horrible to me, but then like everything else in life, its personal.

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B12VEE Banned Rover 75 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Sheffield Posts: 173 Thanks: 5 Thanked 34 Times in 26 Posts	The running gear in essence never changed so all the engines and gearboxes are the same. Remember the 1.8T came out about 2002 ish. The rest is down to saving money and trim choices etc. The Club and Club SE was dropped in the facelift and all these adverts where they claim the car is top spec are normally wrong. One thing that makes them think this is the 75/ZT don't have any blank switchs on show so hence the thought its top spec. The rest is down to looks and if you want a car with the cost savings or not.

21st March 2015, 11:04	#8
Paulifa1 Loves to post 75 launch car Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: North East Lincs. Posts: 367 Thanks: 42 Thanked 56 Times in 41 Posts	I've owned 5 75's now, ranging from my current 99 launch car to a late 2002 entirely post project drive model, the earlier the car, the nicer it's felt. I've also test driven some of the later Mk2 cars and was surprised at how much more ordinary they felt A combination of thinner carpets, less/cheaper soundproofing, plain rubber door seals rather than felt lined, and myriad other slightly cheaper built parts adds up to change the feel of the car considerably. The other side of the coin is, the earlier the car the more carefully you need to check it for corrosion, purely just as a result of time really. Looked after 75's generally don't rust much at all due to the galvanised body, but can sometimes rust locally at the rear lower bottom sill area. Bonnets also rust through sometimes at the left or right leading edge.