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Old 21st December 2018, 21:02   #61
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This is me now showing-off in the photo below, not quite 50 yet. Photo was only taken a few months ago when enjoying the summer sunshine. I was in excruciating pain when this photo was taken, this was when I said enough is enough, its time to get rid and opt for full dentures. I just hope I don't look too different after my bottoms come out, otherwise I will be driving the TF with the top up. lol

My parents had all theirs out in their mid 20's as was normal then, to save a life of problems later in life???


I lasted through to my 50's, then said enough was enough and had the lot out. They did it in stages, with temporary dentures between and several visits. I never had any problems with the upper set, but could never get on with the lower set, constant pain and poor fit.



I have friends with the implants, they seem to cause more issues than the natural ones.
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Old 21st December 2018, 21:17   #62
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Then there's the past few years of having to adjust to wearing partial dentures, and now facing the fact that I will need to adjust to a full set of dentures and the cost involved yet again.

I only had temporary partials for a short time, but full dentures I found were much easier to keep in place, much more secure and easier to get on with.


The temporaries were made up ready to go in, before the naturals were extracted.



I never had a soft diet, I was chomping nuts and toffees within hours of extractions.
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Teeth were extracted routinely at a young age some years ago. This was especially so prior and just after 1948 when the NHS came in.

Before that you had to pay a relative large Private fee for every small job and as many people had not got the money they saved up so as to lose them all in one go ( often a 21st present or a wedding gift) and then once the NHS started, and at that time it was free, all those people who had suffered problems rushed to get all their teeth out. Technology and treatments available to save teeth were not around and the oral hygiene measures people used were poor. Since check ups prior to 48 were charged, people only ever went when they had a problem. Add all this together, most ended up with Perio. problems leading to a clearance.

Everybody is different and experience showed me there is a large spectrum when it comes to dentures...................at the one end are those that could wear anything ( put 2 horseshoes in and they would cope!) through to those that cannot tolerate even the stages of manufacture. Everybody else sits somewhere between with very varied differences in the ability to adapt and cope. This is especially so with the lower denture which requires good muscular control for it to work. I used to see many people who could wear the upper without a problem but suffered with the lower. Invariably because the upper covered the palate it would lead to a degree of suction which made it more controllable.

Over all my years of specialising in prosthetics there were more problems with ordinary unsupported dentures than with implants. The main drawbacks to implants are cost and sometimes who has done them. Always best to go to someone who has done the full 2 year diploma in implantology than someone who has done a weekend course!
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Old 21st December 2018, 23:02   #64
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Unfortunately for the type of treatment you are down for, you will not be a priority within an oral surgery department. They are more to do with mouth cancer, facial reconstruction and severe medical complications etc.

As I said before you did well to get an oral surgery department to undertake this type of treatment.

Hopefully they will get a short notice appointment you can take advantage of.

Lets certainly hope so, best of luck
Absolutely correct Ashley, that is exactly what I was told. I didn't really want to cause a fuss, so I just agreed. They did say I could be called in at any time if a cancellation comes up, also if I'm in pain to get my GP to expedite my case.

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My parents had all theirs out in their mid 20's as was normal then, to save a life of problems later in life???


I lasted through to my 50's, then said enough was enough and had the lot out. They did it in stages, with temporary dentures between and several visits. I never had any problems with the upper set, but could never get on with the lower set, constant pain and poor fit.

I have friends with the implants, they seem to cause more issues than the natural ones.
Hi Harry, I myself have found it blooming impossible to get my teeth extracted, these days dentists don't like taking teeth out. Not unless they are 101% confident that the tooth is dead, and then they will still try and talk you into a root canal or implant (sorry Ashley if that offends).

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I only had temporary partials for a short time, but full dentures I found were much easier to keep in place, much more secure and easier to get on with.

The temporaries were made up ready to go in, before the naturals were extracted.

I never had a soft diet, I was chomping nuts and toffees within hours of extractions.
I totally agree with you Harry, wearing partials with existing teeth can be a right nightmare for some. At first I found it ok, I adapted to wearing dentures very quickly. I would wear them all the time without any problems, I guess over time the partials were putting pressure on my remaining teeth and causing them to hurt, also my bone has dropped which is just adding to the problem.

I have found my immediate full upper denture to be not so good, its extremely big and ill fitting. I can no longer wear the new upper, I should have refused the denture to be honest, by the time the lab had finished making it all my swelling had gone down and my gums had changed shape. I will go back to my dentist in January and get them to fix it, but I cant see a reline working as its way to big, its actually to wide for my mouth, I look like a horse. lol

I'm on a soft food diet at the moment due to not being able to wear my full upper or lower partial denture, so I'm gumming food at present. I've hurt my throat a few times swallowing food as I cant chew properly, so its lots of mash potatoes, vegetables and gravy, yogurt's and cheesecake for me, my Christmas is going to be fun.

The problem I have now is... Do I get my dentist to alter/fix the existing new upper denture while I wait for the hospital appointment for the lowers to come out, at least I can then wear a full upper denture for a short time...

...or do I wait to get the lowers out and then opt for a new upper and lower set to be made at the same time, e.g a better fitting pair of dentures. lol

The dentist should be able to make me immediate's, but I have found her to be quite difficult. I'm sure she doesn't fully understand how the NHS system works, or she is being crafty, seems to always steer me towards the private treatment options.

To make matters more complicated, the specialist at the hospital did say to wait 6-8 weeks before getting any dentures, he reckons its best to wait for the swelling to go down, this way the temps will fit better for longer.

I've been told many people do find a full lower denture to not fit as well, many need to use adhesive etc. I think its a chance I will have to take, I'm sure its better than what I have now. I'm sure anything is better than me always clashing my remaining teeth and being in pain, wish me luck.

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Teeth were extracted routinely at a young age some years ago. This was especially so prior and just after 1948 when the NHS came in.

Before that you had to pay a relative large Private fee for every small job and as many people had not got the money they saved up so as to lose them all in one go ( often a 21st present or a wedding gift) and then once the NHS started, and at that time it was free, all those people who had suffered problems rushed to get all their teeth out. Technology and treatments available to save teeth were not around and the oral hygiene measures people used were poor. Since check ups prior to 48 were charged, people only ever went when they had a problem. Add all this together, most ended up with Perio. problems leading to a clearance.

Everybody is different and experience showed me there is a large spectrum when it comes to dentures...................at the one end are those that could wear anything ( put 2 horseshoes in and they would cope!) through to those that cannot tolerate even the stages of manufacture. Everybody else sits somewhere between with very varied differences in the ability to adapt and cope. This is especially so with the lower denture which requires good muscular control for it to work. I used to see many people who could wear the upper without a problem but suffered with the lower. Invariably because the upper covered the palate it would lead to a degree of suction which made it more controllable.

Over all my years of specialising in prosthetics there were more problems with ordinary unsupported dentures than with implants. The main drawbacks to implants are cost and sometimes who has done them. Always best to go to someone who has done the full 2 year diploma in implantology than someone who has done a weekend course!
How times have changed...

They say the hospitals have never seen so many people wanting/needing their teeth extracted, dentist's are refusing to take teeth out, so its left for the hospitals to do.

People say they cant even get registered with a NHS dentist these days, and then you never see the same dentist twice if you do. NHS dental practices cant even keep hold of dentist's for very long, as they all seem to want to go private and get paid more money for less work. I don't blame them really, I've seem how some of these NHS dental practices operate. The types of folk you get coming in and how busy these places can get is frightening, you can actually see the stress and beads of sweat on the dentist's foreheads, it must be very stressful for them.

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I have found my immediate full upper denture to be not so good, its extremely big and ill fitting. I can no longer wear the new upper, I should have refused the denture to be honest, by the time the lab had finished making it all my swelling had gone down and my gums had changed shape. I will go back to my dentist in January and get them to fix it, but I cant see a reline working as its way to big, its actually to wide for my mouth, I look like a horse. lol

As said, I received a temporary full upper denture, ready made which went straight in after extraction. Then some while later the permanent one, once the gums had settled.


It certainly felt absolutely massive in my mouth, but once in it felt stable and looking in the mirror my face looked fine. My dentist said to persist with it, keep it in all the time, it would settle in and begin to feel normal - He was right.



The gums do shape themselves some way to conform to fit a denture, so keeping it in despite how it feels, helps.
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As said, I received a temporary full upper denture, ready made which went straight in after extraction. Then some while later the permanent one, once the gums had settled.


It certainly felt absolutely massive in my mouth, but once in it felt stable and looking in the mirror my face looked fine. My dentist said to persist with it, keep it in all the time, it would settle in and begin to feel normal - He was right.



The gums do shape themselves some way to conform to fit a denture, so keeping it in despite how it feels, helps.
I wish it were that simple Harry, mine is in fact too big for my mouth, even the specialist at the hospital commented on how big it was, he said it would be best to go back and have another one made. The denture had cut/rubbed my gums raw to the point of seeing bone (even with adhesive).

The denture was already too big from the word go, and now its been 7 weeks since the upper extractions, its bigger than ever. I don't understand why my dentist said to come back in 3 months for a reline, relines should happen within the first 3-6 weeks after extractions, at least 2 relines within the first 6-8 weeks.

You would actually think this so called immediate denture was made for a different mouth, someone else's denture. As said, my immediate denture wasn't immediate, I didn't receive it until 4 weeks later. The dentist messed up the impressions which made the whole process take longer, so by the time I received teh denture, my swelling and bone had already changed far too much for it to fit.
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Well I'm a happy chappy, I just had a phone call from the hospital to say come in next week for the extractions, the doc wants me in soon as possible. Woohoo!

I'm so blooming happy, but also somewhat scarred to say the least. A full clearance is going to blooming hurt I guess, the healing process takes so long, will be worth it in the long run though.

I've only been waiting 10 years for this, and now finally e-day is just around the corner. AMAZING!

Great start to the new year.

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Well I'm a happy chappy, I just had a phone call from the hospital to say come in next week for the extractions, the doc wants me in soon as possible. Woohoo!

I'm so blooming happy, but also somewhat scarred to say the least. A full clearance is going to blooming hurt I guess, the healing process takes so long, will be worth it in the long run though.

I've only been waiting 10 years for this, and now finally e-day is just around the corner. AMAZING!

Great start to the new year.
Great news Wes!!!

Let us know how it goes.
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Great news Wes!!!

Let us know how it goes.
It certainly is Clive, I'm so thankful to be going in next week. To have it all sorted at the start of January will be brilliant, I may wait awhile though for all the swelling to go down before I get full dentures, will shall see. Its been nearly 8 weeks since my upper extractions, so that's 8 weeks of healing done, now to do it all again.

The only downside is, I had a urology appointment booked the same day. I received a follow up appointment last week after all this time since April last year. I've had to reschedule it now, been told they are fully booked up until April this year, now I have to wait for urology to confirm my new appointment.

I also need to get rid of this horrid cold, I cant stop coughing, been like it now for two blooming weeks.

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Well! I'm currently sh**ing myself, I'm going in on Friday to get my last reaming teeth pulled.

Only one more day with these suckers and then they are gone, its going to blooming hurt just isn't it. I'm going to be out of action for a few days I guess.

I will have to change my name to gummy bear. lol
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