Upgrade harmony to symphony with cd changer on 99 car

Pruts3r · 3rd October 2017, 06:13

Hi, ive beem given the chance to buy a symphony radio to replace my harmony. It comes with original cd changer to which it was connected i another car.

I know i need a bmw 17 to ISO adapter for the radio, i have that allready, BUT can i just ad the cd changer after upgrading to symphony? Is the symphony cd changer just connected to the symlhony head unit or do i need aditional wiring on the cars loom???

I have a 1999 with standard harmony radio now.

smudge.g · 4th October 2017, 11:32

I've just removed a symphony unit and the CD changer form the glove box. the CD was connected to the unit via a square-ish 6pin (i think) connector with no other connections that I can remember. I just left the wiring in the glovebox and the other end dangling behind the new DD unit.

smudge.g · 4th October 2017, 11:37

ps i seem to remember that the CD chnager wire forms part of the 3 part plug that goes into the back of the symphony unit, coloured red/green/yellow i think.

if you need the CD wire, i could always try and remove my redundant one and send to you!

raykay · 6th October 2017, 21:29

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Originally Posted by smudge.g

ps i seem to remember that the CD chnager wire forms part of the 3 part plug that goes into the back of the symphony unit, coloured red/green/yellow i think.

if you need the CD wire, i could always try and remove my redundant one and send to you!

Unfortunately it needs more than just the plug - the Symphony and changer will both need a connection to the K-Bus. There is more information in the 'How to Forum' - 'ICE & Navigation' - 'Change a Harmony for a Symphony' (page 1) & 'How to fit a CD changer to a to a Harmony or Symphony' (page 3).

Pruts3r · 4th November 2017, 07:37

Wel got the symphony working. And instead of a cd changer i opted for a connects2 aux adapter. I plugged in de yellow green and blue plug but when pressing the cd/tape button itjust says "no tape". Do i need to activate the cd changer port on the radio or is there another lead that should run from the loom to the connects 2 device in order for it to work? Fyi: it also doenst work when a phone that is playing music is connected to the connects2.

350zwelgje · 4th November 2017, 09:38

You need to push the tape/cd button twice to go to CD mode.
That is where the connect2 provides the input.
Have the same setup and it works ok.

Rob

Pruts3r · 4th November 2017, 22:03

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Originally Posted by 350zwelgje

You need to push the tape/cd button twice to go to CD mode.
That is where the connect2 provides the input.
Have the same setup and it works ok.

Rob

Allready tried that.... do you have any additional wirering going to the connects2? I only connected the yellow green blue plug to the radio. The red plug on the other end is connected to nothing. Same with you?

RPWC · 5th November 2017, 12:23

If you can get a symphony harness from one of the club traders, or a breaker, it has the wiring for glovebox mounted CD player. One unit has a male connector, the other a female, so the loose end of the symphony harness, will join up with the existing end of the harmony harness, that originally went in to the back of the radio. I did this with mine when I did the swap, it’s the easiest way, and there is plenty of room inside the centre console to push the extra cable length in, to fit the radio.

350zwelgje · 5th November 2017, 15:29

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Originally Posted by Pruts3r

Allready tried that.... do you have any additional wirering going to the connects2? I only connected the yellow green blue plug to the radio. The red plug on the other end is connected to nothing. Same with you?

Can't check, it is behind the dash. Sounds that you connected it ok to the radio but it is not seeing it.
Remember that when installing it (long time ago), the instructions where not so clear, but it needs a connector (quite small) to the Connect-box, perhaps the red one. Can't remember that a plug is unused. Perhaps you can try another combination. Are all plugs fully home? It worked first time for me, hopefully nothing is wrong with the kit you have got.

Rob

Pruts3r · 13th January 2018, 18:07

okay. turns out my symphony radio was defective. Got a new one now from a guy who had it WITH cd changer so i i knew that the radio is doing its part.

Plugged it in and connected mij connects2 aux adapter with yellow green and blue and.... notthing

here is how i connected it. I think maybe something should go in the red connector.... IS that that k-bus cable???

Any help as always greatly appreciated

3rd October 2017, 06:13	#1
Pruts3r Avid contributor 1999 Rover 75 Sterling - Pewter Grey - Aubergine Leather & 1985 Rover 3500 Vitesse - Targa Red Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 122 Thanks: 40 Thanked 19 Times in 13 Posts	Upgrade harmony to symphony with cd changer on 99 car Hi, ive beem given the chance to buy a symphony radio to replace my harmony. It comes with original cd changer to which it was connected i another car. I know i need a bmw 17 to ISO adapter for the radio, i have that allready, BUT can i just ad the cd changer after upgrading to symphony? Is the symphony cd changer just connected to the symlhony head unit or do i need aditional wiring on the cars loom??? I have a 1999 with standard harmony radio now. __________________ '99 Rover 75 sterling 2.5 auto in Pewter grey with Aubergine interior •Born on Wednesday the 23rd of June 1999 @ 11:35:32 •The 6367th 75 to be produced. •The 214th Pewter Grey 75 out of 442. •Probably one of a handful Pewters with Aubergine.

4th October 2017, 11:32	#2
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4th October 2017, 11:37	#3
smudge.g Gets stuck in 75 Tourer CDTi Connie SE Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Keith, Banffshire Posts: 686 Thanks: 431 Thanked 132 Times in 105 Posts	ps i seem to remember that the CD chnager wire forms part of the 3 part plug that goes into the back of the symphony unit, coloured red/green/yellow i think. if you need the CD wire, i could always try and remove my redundant one and send to you! __________________ My 75 Tourer CDTi was born Saturday, 21st June 2003 @ 09:50 My 75 was the 18,749th 75 Tourer to run off the production line, out of 27,407 It was the 195th 75 Tourer CDT Connoisseur SE (135) to be made out of 2,074 and the 1,789th 75 Tourer in Wedgewood Blue Metallic (code: JEL) to be made out of 1,871 Wedgewood Blue Metallic 75 Tourers

4th November 2017, 07:37	#5
Pruts3r Avid contributor 1999 Rover 75 Sterling - Pewter Grey - Aubergine Leather & 1985 Rover 3500 Vitesse - Targa Red Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 122 Thanks: 40 Thanked 19 Times in 13 Posts	Wel got the symphony working. And instead of a cd changer i opted for a connects2 aux adapter. I plugged in de yellow green and blue plug but when pressing the cd/tape button itjust says "no tape". Do i need to activate the cd changer port on the radio or is there another lead that should run from the loom to the connects 2 device in order for it to work? Fyi: it also doenst work when a phone that is playing music is connected to the connects2. __________________ '99 Rover 75 sterling 2.5 auto in Pewter grey with Aubergine interior •Born on Wednesday the 23rd of June 1999 @ 11:35:32 •The 6367th 75 to be produced. •The 214th Pewter Grey 75 out of 442. •Probably one of a handful Pewters with Aubergine.

4th November 2017, 09:38	#6
350zwelgje Avid contributor 75 KV6 2.5 3x Rover 75 CDT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Belgium Posts: 249 Thanks: 6 Thanked 34 Times in 33 Posts	You need to push the tape/cd button twice to go to CD mode. That is where the connect2 provides the input. Have the same setup and it works ok. Rob __________________ 75 KV6 2.5 Sterling automatic, 3x 75 CDT (2 manual + automatic), MG ZT 190+, 620i, SD1 2300S, P6 2000SC & TVR 350i

5th November 2017, 12:23	#8
RPWC This is my second home 75 model car Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 20,177 Thanks: 4,008 Thanked 5,083 Times in 3,114 Posts	If you can get a symphony harness from one of the club traders, or a breaker, it has the wiring for glovebox mounted CD player. One unit has a male connector, the other a female, so the loose end of the symphony harness, will join up with the existing end of the harmony harness, that originally went in to the back of the radio. I did this with mine when I did the swap, it’s the easiest way, and there is plenty of room inside the centre console to push the extra cable length in, to fit the radio. __________________ Cheers. Rich…

13th January 2018, 18:07	#10
Pruts3r Avid contributor 1999 Rover 75 Sterling - Pewter Grey - Aubergine Leather & 1985 Rover 3500 Vitesse - Targa Red Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Rotterdam Posts: 122 Thanks: 40 Thanked 19 Times in 13 Posts	okay. turns out my symphony radio was defective. Got a new one now from a guy who had it WITH cd changer so i i knew that the radio is doing its part. Plugged it in and connected mij connects2 aux adapter with yellow green and blue and.... notthing here is how i connected it. I think maybe something should go in the red connector.... IS that that k-bus cable??? Any help as always greatly appreciated __________________ '99 Rover 75 sterling 2.5 auto in Pewter grey with Aubergine interior •Born on Wednesday the 23rd of June 1999 @ 11:35:32 •The 6367th 75 to be produced. •The 214th Pewter Grey 75 out of 442. •Probably one of a handful Pewters with Aubergine.