Slim chance- but does anyone have an MG ZS 180 Mk2 and have there SA and GM coding

Matt G · 23rd June 2019, 16:14

Hi All

I wonder if anyone can help!!. I know this is for ZT’s but on the slim chance does anyone On here have a MK2 MG ZS 180 and also have there SA Coding and GM coding production data codes ( not VIN number coding) from the factory.

After 6 years I finally went to get a second key fob coded Today at a big Rover specialist in Birmingham and found out it was built as an MG Rover factory car and apparently it was very common on works cars not have there SA Or GM production data programmed into them. As a result the T4 test system cannot connect to my car to re program anything like, keys, ecu’s etc, it only recognises the vin number as an MG ZS 180 car built.

It’s great that I have something quirky, but it does have its down falls.

If anyone does have there production SA and GM coding ( please to confirm NOT your VIN number coding, this is different and of no threat to your car being cloned) for a MK2 ZS 180 is there any chance they could message it me at all, so I can create a generic production data file for my car an thus enable my car to talk to the T4 testbook in the future, if I should have a break down and need to change any electronics based parts.

I would be really, really grateful and thanks in advance if anyone can help.

Regards

Matt

marinabrian · 23rd June 2019, 16:28

First I've heard of this one... I can tell you however, DST0006V won't talk correctly to V6 HHR models

Phil-T4 engineered a patch for this and released a revised version of the diagnostic disc.

Apart from that, if the ZCS coding is corrupt, or the T4 is being operated by someone who doesn't understand where the information if being read from in the first place, and why they are getting spurious errors, or why T4 is asking to have the ZCS coding inputted manually, then it's time to find someone different to do the job.

All of the cars that came out of the factory coded with their respective ZCS, right up to the bitter end.

So if you only want an additional plip coded to the SCU, then I would suggest contacting Paul Brown (Technozen Electronics) rather than have someone succeed in locking it out, while they stumble blindly around attempting to do the job for you

Brian

Lovel · 23rd June 2019, 18:49

MkII zs180 here and T4 working beautifully with Phil’s latest patch for T4.

Matt G · 23rd June 2019, 21:18

Marinabrian and Lovel

Thanks for the reply. I’ll try and get hold of Phil T4 and see if he still has the patch.

The gentleman I went too (Ron at The Best of Rover Spares) was definitely an expert and was talking about locking out and losing the programming if not saved first. He had referred to similar problems with Zt’s in the past with the same issues and had managed to find a fix for them but that would not work with my ZS.

I was there with him and the T4 would recognise the vehicle as An kv6 ZS 180 but would not connect due to the lack of the SA and GM coding.

He believed that 1 Control unit had the coding in it and tried to access them one at a time but to no avail.

Thanks guys

Matt

Matt G · 23rd June 2019, 21:44

Hi both

Do you know how to contact Phil-T4, he must have been inundated with private messages before and doesn’t accept them anymore.?

Matt

cb750chris · 23rd June 2019, 22:13

Thanks for this info Brian.
Certainly something to bear in mind, I ought to check what discs I have, then I may need to try and contract Phil and see if he is willing to help with this.
Chris

Phil-T4 · 24th June 2019, 06:50

No need to contact me, ask Brian or Gary for a copy of my DST0006W disc.

Lovel · 24th June 2019, 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil-T4

No need to contact me, ask Brian or Gary for a copy of my DST0006W disc.

I didn’t want to just give out your hard work, but now we have your blessing

Brian you are usually quicker of the mark than me. Have you already dealt with this?

Lovel · 24th June 2019, 19:27

Two copies ready for Matt & Chris, please supply your postal addresses via PM.

Matt G · 24th June 2019, 22:33

Phil-T4, Brian and Lovel

Thank you so much for your help.

Lovel just sent you a message

Regards

Matt

23rd June 2019, 16:14	#1
Matt G Regular poster MG ZT 190+ (Development car), mg zt 190SE (Twilight), MG ZS 180 Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Waltham st lawrence Posts: 39 Thanks: 5 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Slim chance- but does anyone have an MG ZS 180 Mk2 and have there SA and GM coding Hi All I wonder if anyone can help!!. I know this is for ZT’s but on the slim chance does anyone On here have a MK2 MG ZS 180 and also have there SA Coding and GM coding production data codes ( not VIN number coding) from the factory. After 6 years I finally went to get a second key fob coded Today at a big Rover specialist in Birmingham and found out it was built as an MG Rover factory car and apparently it was very common on works cars not have there SA Or GM production data programmed into them. As a result the T4 test system cannot connect to my car to re program anything like, keys, ecu’s etc, it only recognises the vin number as an MG ZS 180 car built. It’s great that I have something quirky, but it does have its down falls. If anyone does have there production SA and GM coding ( please to confirm NOT your VIN number coding, this is different and of no threat to your car being cloned) for a MK2 ZS 180 is there any chance they could message it me at all, so I can create a generic production data file for my car an thus enable my car to talk to the T4 testbook in the future, if I should have a break down and need to change any electronics based parts. I would be really, really grateful and thanks in advance if anyone can help. Regards Matt

23rd June 2019, 18:49	#3
Lovel T4 Geek R40, P6B, L359, Imp, F56, R56, Street Twin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 2,813 Thanks: 301 Thanked 619 Times in 412 Posts	MkII zs180 here and T4 working beautifully with Phil’s latest patch for T4. __________________ @@@@@ Genuine NOS Hillman Imp body panels wanted @@@@@@ Almost there just need a Bonnet & Front Headlamp Panel

23rd June 2019, 22:13	#6
cb750chris Trader Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 813 Thanks: 188 Thanked 255 Times in 185 Posts	Thanks for this info Brian. Certainly something to bear in mind, I ought to check what discs I have, then I may need to try and contract Phil and see if he is willing to help with this. Chris __________________ Now offering T4 services in the Fareham area Replacement keys programmed / supplied / cut Diesel 135 upgrade available IPK virginisation and T4 matching available

24th June 2019, 19:27	#9
Lovel T4 Geek R40, P6B, L359, Imp, F56, R56, Street Twin Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 2,813 Thanks: 301 Thanked 619 Times in 412 Posts	Two copies ready for Matt & Chris, please supply your postal addresses via PM. __________________ @@@@@ Genuine NOS Hillman Imp body panels wanted @@@@@@ Almost there just need a Bonnet & Front Headlamp Panel

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23rd June 2019, 16:28	#2
marinabrian MG ZT Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 20,288 Thanks: 3,630 Thanked 10,811 Times in 5,742 Posts	First I've heard of this one... I can tell you however, DST0006V won't talk correctly to V6 HHR models Phil-T4 engineered a patch for this and released a revised version of the diagnostic disc. Apart from that, if the ZCS coding is corrupt, or the T4 is being operated by someone who doesn't understand where the information if being read from in the first place, and why they are getting spurious errors, or why T4 is asking to have the ZCS coding inputted manually, then it's time to find someone different to do the job. All of the cars that came out of the factory coded with their respective ZCS, right up to the bitter end. So if you only want an additional plip coded to the SCU, then I would suggest contacting Paul Brown (Technozen Electronics) rather than have someone succeed in locking it out, while they stumble blindly around attempting to do the job for you Brian

23rd June 2019, 21:18	#4
Matt G Regular poster MG ZT 190+ (Development car), mg zt 190SE (Twilight), MG ZS 180 Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Waltham st lawrence Posts: 39 Thanks: 5 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Marinabrian and Lovel Thanks for the reply. I’ll try and get hold of Phil T4 and see if he still has the patch. The gentleman I went too (Ron at The Best of Rover Spares) was definitely an expert and was talking about locking out and losing the programming if not saved first. He had referred to similar problems with Zt’s in the past with the same issues and had managed to find a fix for them but that would not work with my ZS. I was there with him and the T4 would recognise the vehicle as An kv6 ZS 180 but would not connect due to the lack of the SA and GM coding. He believed that 1 Control unit had the coding in it and tried to access them one at a time but to no avail. Thanks guys Matt

23rd June 2019, 21:44	#5
Matt G Regular poster MG ZT 190+ (Development car), mg zt 190SE (Twilight), MG ZS 180 Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Waltham st lawrence Posts: 39 Thanks: 5 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Hi both Do you know how to contact Phil-T4, he must have been inundated with private messages before and doesn’t accept them anymore.? Matt

24th June 2019, 06:50	#7
Phil-T4 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T, Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Olney Posts: 2,941 Thanks: 243 Thanked 1,026 Times in 633 Posts	No need to contact me, ask Brian or Gary for a copy of my DST0006W disc.

24th June 2019, 22:33	#10
Matt G Regular poster MG ZT 190+ (Development car), mg zt 190SE (Twilight), MG ZS 180 Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Waltham st lawrence Posts: 39 Thanks: 5 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Phil-T4, Brian and Lovel Thank you so much for your help. Lovel just sent you a message Regards Matt