Just had Dogs trust bloke at the door.

Phil · 24th June 2009, 20:21

Just had a bloke at the door collecting sponsorship for dogs trust and he had some stories to tell of the dogs he was trying to gain sponsorship for. One he was presenting was found tied to a park bench with two broken legs. They found the owner and he is now in jail. He said that the dog was just disobedient.
The dog was born deaf.
I cannot even imagine how somebody could be that cruel or hard to a living creature. It is sickening.

Zeb · 24th June 2009, 20:28

Indeed it IS sickening Phil...but then he was there to obtain money for the trust after all...

Phil · 24th June 2009, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Zeb

Indeed it IS sickening Phil...but then he was there to obtain money for the trust after all...

They do a lot of good work though and I don't doubt if it is a true story, but the hard work needs to be paid for.

Zeb · 24th June 2009, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Phil

They do a lot of good work though and I don't doubt if it is a true story, but the hard work needs to be paid for.

Most true...but I am ill at ease with the manipulative nature of the stories these organisations tell for financial gain...

Ken · 24th June 2009, 21:36

The Dogs Trust does a lot of good work Phil well done on posting up. As for the tale he told you I would agree it was probably true.

Thankfully some people care enough to help this charity

stocktake · 24th June 2009, 21:40

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Originally Posted by Ken

The Dogs Trust does a lot of good work Phil well done on posting up. As for the tale he told you I would agree it was probably true.

Thankfully some people care enough to help this charity

Agree may be true but take Zeb's point as well.

Read Phil's post and you think of the poor animal, then read Zebs reply and realise we are all open to emotional blackmail.

This forum is invaluable when you need to see both sides

Ken · 24th June 2009, 21:47

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Originally Posted by stocktake

Agree may be true but take Zeb's point as well.

Read Phil's post and you think of the poor animal, then read Zebs reply and realise we are all open to emotional blackmail.

This forum is invaluable when you need to see both sides

I think you may have got me wrong Dave. I certainly wasn't having a go at Zeb

I was answering Phils post, my comment about people caring enough to help was because its a charity that I support along with others.

If I was having a go at anyone I would have 'quoted' the post I was not happy with.

stocktake · 24th June 2009, 21:56

No Ken I agree entirely with your sentiments and feelings, I am an animal lover just as you, I feel for the animal but I was also quickly reminded in the ways of the world by Zebs post.

Platemaker · 25th June 2009, 08:26

Get offf uh my land!!!!

Have you got a brand new combine harvester

I stood and listened to the Shelter chugger last year, it was around Christmas on a Friday evening around eight o,clock at night and I had already had a few . Whilst I sympathise with them I would much rather buy a copy of the Big issue for £30, (which I have done).

Platemaker · 25th June 2009, 08:50

And another thing, all this sponsorship bothers me, sponsor a dog , sponsor a monkey,seal,whale.
I mean, how do you really know? or do you just ignore the voice in the back f your mind that keeps telling you that yu not entirley sure that this months monkey photo is any different to last months? I wonder when we will introduce "sponsor a tramp"??

The thing is , it just undermines peoples control and choice and it is after all just that a choice, now you are being "sold" a product to pay for as if you didn't already know that all this suffering existed.
I more than happy to give some of my money to any of the organisations that fund neo-natal for example and a plethora of charities do well out of my small change in shops, but none of them have got my bank details.

We are all of course very familiar with a UK wide charity that we have been involuntarily paying into for years, currently know as CHAVS but they have been known under other names.

"Sponsor a chav"

hey, they might even send you a picture of him in his Vauxhall Nova every month, burning up the fuel that you and I paid for!

24th June 2009, 20:21	#1
Phil This is my second home Rover 75 CDT Connoisseur SE Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wales Posts: 12,227 Thanks: 469 Thanked 523 Times in 241 Posts	Just had Dogs trust bloke at the door. Just had a bloke at the door collecting sponsorship for dogs trust and he had some stories to tell of the dogs he was trying to gain sponsorship for. One he was presenting was found tied to a park bench with two broken legs. They found the owner and he is now in jail. He said that the dog was just disobedient. The dog was born deaf. I cannot even imagine how somebody could be that cruel or hard to a living creature. It is sickening. __________________

24th June 2009, 21:56	#8
stocktake Vis Whiz Rover 75 2.5 auto Saloon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: LEEDS Posts: 20,591 Thanks: 2,057 Thanked 3,056 Times in 1,621 Posts	No Ken I agree entirely with your sentiments and feelings, I am an animal lover just as you, I feel for the animal but I was also quickly reminded in the ways of the world by Zebs post. __________________ Dave... Lost a few stones and a Gall Bladder and part of a bile duct and all of my dignity in the suppository incident

25th June 2009, 08:26	#9
Platemaker I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 160, MG ZT 180. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: N/A Posts: 2,384 Thanks: 27 Thanked 24 Times in 20 Posts	Get offf uh my land!!!! Have you got a brand new combine harvester I stood and listened to the Shelter chugger last year, it was around Christmas on a Friday evening around eight o,clock at night and I had already had a few . Whilst I sympathise with them I would much rather buy a copy of the Big issue for £30, (which I have done). __________________ Last edited by Simon; 25th June 2009 at 22:26.. Reason: Reference to another post removed for continuity

25th June 2009, 08:50	#10
Platemaker I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 160, MG ZT 180. Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: N/A Posts: 2,384 Thanks: 27 Thanked 24 Times in 20 Posts	And another thing, all this sponsorship bothers me, sponsor a dog , sponsor a monkey,seal,whale. I mean, how do you really know? or do you just ignore the voice in the back f your mind that keeps telling you that yu not entirley sure that this months monkey photo is any different to last months? I wonder when we will introduce "sponsor a tramp"?? The thing is , it just undermines peoples control and choice and it is after all just that a choice, now you are being "sold" a product to pay for as if you didn't already know that all this suffering existed. I more than happy to give some of my money to any of the organisations that fund neo-natal for example and a plethora of charities do well out of my small change in shops, but none of them have got my bank details. We are all of course very familiar with a UK wide charity that we have been involuntarily paying into for years, currently know as CHAVS but they have been known under other names. "Sponsor a chav" hey, they might even send you a picture of him in his Vauxhall Nova every month, burning up the fuel that you and I paid for! __________________

24th June 2009, 20:28	#2
Zeb Banned MGZT V8 & ZTT 190+LPG Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,089 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Indeed it IS sickening Phil...but then he was there to obtain money for the trust after all...

24th June 2009, 21:36	#5
Ken Busy doing nothing! . Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Hampshire Posts: 6,373 Thanks: 33 Thanked 44 Times in 16 Posts	The Dogs Trust does a lot of good work Phil well done on posting up. As for the tale he told you I would agree it was probably true. Thankfully some people care enough to help this charity