Dash cam footage can be quite interesting

[macafee2]

Watching dash cam footage on youtube I find sometimes quite interesting


It amazes me people see and record accidents but don't stop.
Turn into minor roads and hoot people that cross the road. I always thought it was give way to pedestrians crossing the road in these circumstance, aggh yes rule 170 of highway code.


go to 8 mins 51 seconds on this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO6PUTThpEw

In the above link the driver with the dash cam decides to go the wrong way round a roundabout. It is a mini round about and he turns right. He hoots the on coming car that does not stop at the mini roundabout and goes straight on. Well, if the dash cam driver had slowed down and gone around the roundabout, the oncoming car may have been well on its way before the dash cam got to that entrance.

I find some of the footage quite amazing and think sometimes, the other driver deserved to have been rammed.

macafee2

[clf]

Originally Posted by macafee2

Watching dash cam footage on youtube I find sometimes quite interesting


It amazes me people see and record accidents but don't stop.
Turn into minor roads and hoot people that cross the road. I always thought it was give way to pedestrians crossing the road in these circumstance, aggh yes rule 170 of highway code.


go to 8 mins 51 seconds on this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO6PUTThpEw

In the above link the driver with the dash cam decides to go the wrong way round a roundabout. It is a mini round about and he turns right. He hoots the on coming car that does not stop at the mini roundabout and goes straight on. Well, if the dash cam driver had slowed down and gone around the roundabout, the oncoming car may have been well on its way before the dash cam got to that entrance.

I find some of the footage quite amazing and think sometimes, the other driver deserved to have been rammed.

macafee2

I watch quite a few of them, and have seen a trend coming forth where a lot of cam drivers quite clearly are in the wrong. Racing through a mini roundabout believing they are in the right, even though if it was paused, it can be seen the car to the left had already entered the roundabout before the cam driver accelerated through it lol. THIS channel has quite a lot of examples like it.

In the instance you mention, the car coming from the opposite side, was 'miles' off the roundabout when the cam car entered it, and whilst they were wrong, they would have cleared it had the cam car correctly negotiated the roundabout. In my eye, it would have been a 50/50 as the cam car cut the roundabout, but the opposing car did not stop. If the cam car had have proceeded correctly, the cam car would have been absolved in any incident.

[clf]

HERE is a classic example, paused it at 8.43. This is what I call the triple whammy, a self righteous biker, not giving way then blaming the person already on the roundabout.

[bikerdude666]

Originally Posted by clf

HERE is a classic example, paused it at 8.43. This is what I call the triple whammy, a self righteous biker, not giving way then blaming the person already on the roundabout.

Maybe I'm missing something on my small phone screen, but doesn't the bike have right of way, the Ka is going straight over, so the bike has no reason to give way to anything.

[macafee2]

Originally Posted by bikerdude666

Maybe I'm missing something on my small phone screen, but doesn't the bike have right of way, the Ka is going straight over, so the bike has no reason to give way to anything.

I think its the mini from the left that is the problem

macafee2

[clf]

Originally Posted by bikerdude666

Maybe I'm missing something on my small phone screen, but doesn't the bike have right of way, the Ka is going straight over, so the bike has no reason to give way to anything.

Originally Posted by macafee2

I think its the mini from the left that is the problem

macafee2

It is neither.

The Bini was was very hasty at the roundabout, however it was the biker who did it all wrong, revs loudly as it reaches the slowed Bini, which has had to slow because the Ka didnt exit the roundabout quick enough. The biker may actually have caused the issue by pulling in front of the Ka especially if it was turning right without indicating (although it doesnt look like it from the still).






These videos are littered with instances such as this. Cars are worse for the mini roundabouts. Whilst bikers mistake overtaking for filtering, then get whiney when a car or van nearly crashes head on into them!

[macafee2]

go to 6.19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a18onMUQyVc&t=318s and listen to the commentary, what are your thoughts?

macafee2

[clf]

Originally Posted by macafee2

go to 6.19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a18onMUQyVc&t=318s and listen to the commentary, what are your thoughts?

macafee2

Well to me it seems obvious. Priority (my bad though, I use the term right of way) to the right, whilst watching the left and giving priority to those already on the roundabout. That is all well and good on paper, and 'the entitled generation' concentrate on theory (or their memory of theory!), without practical experience . Not even attempting to brake because they had 'right of way'. - then you have the BMW drivers

The actual video though, I felt he was a little too quick to enter the roundabout, as he didnt make an allowance for the car from the left being an idiot and not driving around the roundabout. This made the cam car come a little too close to the car from the left, and appear to be intimidating, even though the cam car did nothing wrong.

I have two simple thoughts when driving (a bit of good sense in its implementation of course, as every situation is different of course). I drive intending not to impede or hinder with consideration for others on the road, and if you make me brake with your manoeuvre, you have done wrong to me.

One thing I have noticed since I got my cameras, I adhere and pay more attention to speed limits as well as other road users.

[clf]

HERE is a special driver. It is drivers such as these that need to have their licences removed.

I should add, I make mistakes, and am definitely not perfect, but I have become more aware of my mistakes when I do make them.

[clf]

Originally Posted by macafee2

I have not said it so I had better do so, I think the biker was wrong.
From the first picture it shows both cars are already on the roundabout and my thinking the give way to traffic from the right only applies to traffic already on the roundabout and the bike was not on the roundabout when either car entered it.
rule 185 seems to make me wrong
I do think the biker considers the mini to be in the wrong.

The Ka seemed to go straight on, just as well cos if he had turned right, that biker could have gone flying.

The dotted give way, as the Ka went straight on I don't think they have any bearing on ka/bike interaction. As for the mini, as I say above mini was on roundabout before bike so bike should give way but rule 185 indicates me to be wrong.


macafee2

That clears it up, as I was reading a defence of the biker. Rule 185 is clear. But it used to be clearer from.my memory. Give way to the right and to those already on the roundabout.

None of the drivers or riders gave way at the road markings, so all were wrong really. The ka and bini reached the lines at almost the same time, so if they kept moving, it would have been ok. The biker racing into the roundabout I think caused the concertina, by either impeding the ka from turning right or startling them, as.the slowed immediately on the roundabout.

Sent from my SM-A600FN using Tapatalk