Diesel help!

Jackstevens98 · 4th May 2018, 08:36

Recently bought a 75 2004 pre face-lift cdti as a non runner

Car would crank over with a new battery but not start.

I have cleared the plenum as it was full of leaves
Checked ecu seemed dry

I cleaned out the egr value as it was sodden with old oil an dirt.

I have used Easy start today and the car started but sounded rough.

I also noticed when idling there was a small amount of oil coming out of the top left hand accostic cover screw hole. Upon putting the screw back in the oil then started coming out of the dipstick

What should I do?

Bogbrush82 · 4th May 2018, 08:38

Intercooler O-rings?

bikerdude666 · 4th May 2018, 08:48

PCV filter blocked?

EastPete · 4th May 2018, 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackstevens98

I also noticed when idling there was a small amount of oil coming out of the top left hand accostic cover screw hole. Upon putting the screw back in the oil then started coming out of the dipstick

What should I do?

Could be blocked PCV filter - fairly cheap and easy to change. There is a 'how to' on the forum from Steve (Arctic)

Pete

EastPete · 4th May 2018, 08:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikerdude666

PCV filter blocked?

Beat me to it !!

Pete

HarryM1BYT · 4th May 2018, 09:25

..and if there is still any doubt - PCV

But that would not account for the none starting.

The engine ECU is very easily damaged by failing to keep the plenum free to drain. Just looking at it will not give any clue as to whether water has got in or not and once in, it tends to stay in there wrecking the unit. Marinabrian has salvaged and repaired lots of them.

Check the pollen filter, that will often show signs if the plenum has been flooded since it was last replaced.

Only close examination of the PCB inside, will determine whether or not it has been damaged. Easystart, will start any diesel, working ECU or not, but it is a good sign that it continues to sort of run. Don't keep on starting it this way, because the risk is that a pressurised crankcase, could cause the engine to run burning its crankcase oil for fuel, with disastrous consequences.

Arctic · 4th May 2018, 10:17

Hi Jack.
Would you please check if you have an under bonnet fuel pump even though I know you have stated it is a 2004, some cars of that age still have them as do a few 2005.

If so once you have removed and changed the PCV filter which a couple of members have touched upon, as above if the UBP is in situ then remove the hose joint going into the fuel filter, put the end into a bottle or container.

Now get someone to turn the ignition to II and see if there is a good flow of fuel without any spluttering, if so replace then remove the electrical connector off the top of the fuel pump spray with contact switch cleaner, push it on and off a few times, do the same to the low pressure pump on top of the fuel filter, making sure you have over a 1/4 tank of fuel then try starting the car.

PS change the PCV filter first.

Jackstevens98 · 4th May 2018, 11:37

Changed the pcv filter and car started okay several times after doing this without using easy start so not sure if thats 100% fixed.

Now seem to have a knocking sound from near where the filler cap for the power steering fluid is. I can see the alternator belt below and notice that the belt seems to move very slightly across one of the pullys.

trikey · 4th May 2018, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackstevens98

Changed the pcv filter and car started okay several times after doing this without using easy start so not sure if thats 100% fixed.

Now seem to have a knocking sound from near where the filler cap for the power steering fluid is. I can see the alternator belt below and notice that the belt seems to move very slightly across one of the pullys.

See if it disappears when you rev the car up.. if it does you need a new crank pulley

4th May 2018, 08:36	#1
Jackstevens98 Loves to post Rover 75 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Sussex Posts: 354 Thanks: 41 Thanked 50 Times in 35 Posts	Diesel help! Recently bought a 75 2004 pre face-lift cdti as a non runner Car would crank over with a new battery but not start. I have cleared the plenum as it was full of leaves Checked ecu seemed dry I cleaned out the egr value as it was sodden with old oil an dirt. I have used Easy start today and the car started but sounded rough. I also noticed when idling there was a small amount of oil coming out of the top left hand accostic cover screw hole. Upon putting the screw back in the oil then started coming out of the dipstick What should I do?

4th May 2018, 08:38	#2
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4th May 2018, 09:25	#6
HarryM1BYT This is my second home 75 Contemporary SE Mk II 2004 Man. Sal. CDTi 135ps, FBH on red diesel, WinCE6 DD Join Date: May 2010 Location: Leeds Posts: 17,273 Thanks: 2,160 Thanked 2,061 Times in 1,586 Posts	..and if there is still any doubt - PCV But that would not account for the none starting. The engine ECU is very easily damaged by failing to keep the plenum free to drain. Just looking at it will not give any clue as to whether water has got in or not and once in, it tends to stay in there wrecking the unit. Marinabrian has salvaged and repaired lots of them. Check the pollen filter, that will often show signs if the plenum has been flooded since it was last replaced. Only close examination of the PCB inside, will determine whether or not it has been damaged. Easystart, will start any diesel, working ECU or not, but it is a good sign that it continues to sort of run. Don't keep on starting it this way, because the risk is that a pressurised crankcase, could cause the engine to run burning its crankcase oil for fuel, with disastrous consequences. __________________ Harry How To's and items I offer for free, or just to cover the cost of my expenses... http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/foru...40#post1764540 Fix a poor handbrake; DIY ABS diagnostic unit; Loan of the spanner needed to change the CDT belts; free OBD diagnostics +MAF; Correct Bosch MAF cheap; DVB-T install in an ex-hi-line system; DD install with a HK amp; FBH servicing. I've taken a vow of poverty. To annoy me, send money. Last edited by HarryM1BYT; 4th May 2018 at 09:27..

4th May 2018, 10:17	#7
Arctic Give to Learn Freelander 2 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Midlands Posts: 18,699 Thanks: 1,155 Thanked 6,407 Times in 3,874 Posts	Hi Jack. Would you please check if you have an under bonnet fuel pump even though I know you have stated it is a 2004, some cars of that age still have them as do a few 2005. If so once you have removed and changed the PCV filter which a couple of members have touched upon, as above if the UBP is in situ then remove the hose joint going into the fuel filter, put the end into a bottle or container. Now get someone to turn the ignition to II and see if there is a good flow of fuel without any spluttering, if so replace then remove the electrical connector off the top of the fuel pump spray with contact switch cleaner, push it on and off a few times, do the same to the low pressure pump on top of the fuel filter, making sure you have over a 1/4 tank of fuel then try starting the car. PS change the PCV filter first. __________________ Arctic Givology Learn to Give Everything is Achievable ad altiora tendo. Check out our Nano meet dates http://www.midlandsnanomeets.co.uk/ http://www.the75andztclub.co.uk/index.php?thepage=howto " You do the work , we supply the expertise "

4th May 2018, 08:48	#3
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4th May 2018, 11:37	#8
Jackstevens98 Loves to post Rover 75 Join Date: May 2017 Location: Sussex Posts: 354 Thanks: 41 Thanked 50 Times in 35 Posts	Changed the pcv filter and car started okay several times after doing this without using easy start so not sure if thats 100% fixed. Now seem to have a knocking sound from near where the filler cap for the power steering fluid is. I can see the alternator belt below and notice that the belt seems to move very slightly across one of the pullys.