Curtailing Pensioner Benefits

[MSS]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48046595

What are members' opinions on this?

[trikey]

They should end benefits for the lazy work shy multiple child benefit scroungers.

There would be enough money in the pot to provide for the pensioners and the young that are willing to go out to work or stay on in education.

[HarryM1BYT]

Originally Posted by trikey

They should end benefits for the lazy work shy multiple child benefit scroungers.

There would be enough money in the pot to provide for the pensioners and the young that are willing to go out to work or stay on in education.

Yep, it really gets my goat when I see fit young people never working, spending their entire life living on the state. I and my generation just had to work, no other options.

[Stevie25]

Listen to the Sky News Paper Review last night.
They briefly ‘discussed’ this topic.
Youngest Journalist made comment along the lines of ‘there is not a big enough pool of young people ‘paying taxes’ to support the needs of the older generation, who could need nursing care etc.
WHEN I FULLY RETIRE IN A FEW YEARS TIME, I WILL STILL BE PAYING INCOME TAX, FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
A majority of ‘older people’ will be doing the same.
This type of comment is nonsense.

[WillyHeckaslike]

It is the system which attracts expenses fiddlers which needs reforming.

[Number 6]

Originally Posted by Stevie25

Listen to the Sky News Paper Review last night.
They briefly ‘discussed’ this topic.
Youngest Journalist made comment along the lines of ‘there is not a big enough pool of young people ‘paying taxes’ to support the needs of the older generation, who could need nursing care etc.
WHEN I FULLY RETIRE IN A FEW YEARS TIME, I WILL STILL BE PAYING INCOME TAX, FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
A majority of ‘older people’ will be doing the same.
This type of comment is nonsense.

The Keyword in this is "Youngest Journalist" made a comment...these are the ones who are saying The older generation "Stole " their future....complete nutters.

[Lancpudn]

Originally Posted by Number 6

The Keyword in this is "Youngest Journalist" made a comment...these are the ones who are saying The older generation "Stole " their future....complete nutters.

Dear me Me heart bleeds for them! I left school at 15 on the Friday and started work on the following Monday as an apprentice tool setter at the local engineering works on £3 10s 0d a week, I was getting 2 Quid a week from delivering newspapers and delivering meat from the butchers since I was twelve, If you wanted pocket money you had to earn it yourself. From what I've read some of them these days complain that they haven't had a gap year and they're stressed out


There are droves of young late teens to mid twenties guys in my neck o the woods who have never had a job since leaving school, most if not all of them are sanctioned because they wont look for work yet the same people are in court for burglary time & time again.
They seem to have no trouble in getting up in the early hours of the morning to do burglary/stealing cars.
I'm sure if they can do that then they're fit enough to work.


I'm not saying all the young people are like this but some of them seem to think they're entitled to a life without putting the effort in.

[topman]

Originally Posted by Stevie25

Listen to the Sky News Paper Review last night.
They briefly ‘discussed’ this topic.
Youngest Journalist made comment along the lines of ‘there is not a big enough pool of young people ‘paying taxes’ to support the needs of the older generation, who could need nursing care etc.
WHEN I FULLY RETIRE IN A FEW YEARS TIME, I WILL STILL BE PAYING INCOME TAX, FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
A majority of ‘older people’ will be doing the same.
This type of comment is nonsense.

Both can be true. Perfectly possible to pay tax in retirement and there not be enough tax payers.

[grivas]

Originally Posted by mss

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48046595

What are members' opinions on this?

Ultimately, it all depends on the kind of society we want, and importantly Britain needs to decide once and for-all if we want to continue with a Welfare System, which provides services to ALL and for which we have to pay, and pay we must at a rate which is fair and proportionate, there are far too many insanely wealthy people who not only pay very little taxes, but in addition are able to exploit loops in the system to facilitate paying even less in tax, it is very easy for the rich to use their wealth to become more wealthy, this way they enjoy better health, better housing, better education, significantly longer and more enjoyable life etc, their kids then go on to repeat the cycle.

In addition major institutions need to be taxed fairly. Anyway pigs may fly and things will improve.

[trikey]

Originally Posted by WillyHeckaslike

It is the system which attracts expenses fiddlers which needs reforming.

I agree with that to a point, when I had 5 children at home, all under the age of 12 I would have been 30% a week better off by not working!

Did I stop work and claim dole? Did I hell, I was brought up to work.