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Old 1st March 2021, 22:45   #61
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This will cost my family £90 + per week, or we buy two new cars.

Wife’s route to work goes straight through the zone, or she goes round and moves the alleged pollution to another Bristol area.

I take our youngest, who has special educational needs and medical needs, to school in the area and the children’s hospital in the zone.
He has extra curricular activities at the weekend too so that’s another £18.

£108 per week.
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Old 3rd March 2021, 20:54   #62
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This will cost my family £90 + per week, or we buy two new cars.

Wife’s route to work goes straight through the zone, or she goes round and moves the alleged pollution to another Bristol area.

I take our youngest, who has special educational needs and medical needs, to school in the area and the children’s hospital in the zone.
He has extra curricular activities at the weekend too so that’s another £18.

£108 per week.
When you see figures like this it becomes scary and even more so when they are likely to raise the daily charge to top up the coffers after spending it on wasteful projects/friends. A girlfriend of mine live in Ebury House in Ebury Sq., alongside Victoria Coach Station. The council "approved" a residents permit zone in the mid 80's at £25 per annum. You have to be a millionaire, disabled or be a good forger to have the means to obtain one to-day. A nice little earner as Mr. Daly would say.

I wonder if the charge will go down when air quality improves due to EV traffic being in the high majority?

Kev

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Old 4th March 2021, 08:44   #63
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When you see figures like this it becomes scary and even more so when they are likely to raise the daily charge to top up the coffers after spending it on wasteful projects/friends. A girlfriend of mine live in Ebury House in Ebury Sq., alongside Victoria Coach Station. The council "approved" a residents permit zone in the late 90's at £25 per annum. You have to be a millionaire, disabled or be a good forger to have the means to obtain one to-day. A nice little earner as Mr. Daly would say.

I wonder if the charge will go down when air quality improves due to EV traffic being in the high majority?

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And they wonder why no-one can afford to live in town!!!

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He gets 100 tickets per year, but has to buy the rest.
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Old 4th March 2021, 09:06   #64
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Having started to look into this further, the council’s own studies into the current traffic show that 71% of the vehicles entering the zone meet the standards and wouldn’t pay. So the improvement in air quality will come from 29% of vehicles. They want to improve NOx.
A euro 3, KV6 will have to pay, but a euro 6 diesel won’t.
Which emits the most NOx?
http://www.eea.europa.eu/publication...port-emissions
The EU says the Euro 6 diesel.
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My Borough Council (Wellingborough) has just spent £5m on a refurbishment of its Multi Storey Carpark and increased its capacity by 200 spaces. In addition, parking is free throughout the Borough including this car park, so what happens - the Authority is being abolished on 31st March to be absorbed into a new Unitary Council which nobody voted for! Progress indeed, but you are all still welcome to visit Wellingborough. There is even a surface car park with 450 spaces which is hardly used on a Sunday - NanoMeet??
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My Borough Council (Wellingborough) has just spent £5m on a refurbishment of its Multi Storey Carpark and increased its capacity by 200 spaces. In addition, parking is free throughout the Borough including this car park, so what happens - the Authority is being abolished on 31st March to be absorbed into a new Unitary Council which nobody voted for! Progress indeed, but you are all still welcome to visit Wellingborough. There is even a surface car park with 450 spaces which is hardly used on a Sunday - NanoMeet??
I am also in Wellingborough and don't understand why they increased the spaces in the multi-storey as since the day it was opened the open air top floor has never been used and closed off.
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I asked my dad if this would affect him. Apparently part of the zone is in his current route to work. Rather than pay the charge he will just drive around it, driving further, so more pollution, and polluting a different area. Or in the summer he can ride his bikes to work through the emissions zone.

He’s nearly 63, so should be retiring in a few years anyway, he’s not going to go out and buy a new car to get to work.
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I asked my dad if this would affect him. Apparently part of the zone is in his current route to work. Rather than pay the charge he will just drive around it, driving further, so more pollution, and polluting a different area. Or in the summer he can ride his bikes to work through the emissions zone.

He’s nearly 63, so should be retiring in a few years anyway, he’s not going to go out and buy a new car to get to work.
Lots of people are planning to do that. I wonder what the increase in traffic across the suspension bridge will be.

We can’t avoid it.

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Old 4th March 2021, 14:58   #69
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There’s been a lot of talk about this. Now it’s happening in Bristol:

‘Bristol is set to become the first city in Britain to ban diesel cars under the toughest measures yet seen to combat air pollution.

The city council wants to prohibit diesels from entering part of the centre from 7am to 3pm daily to cut dangerous levels of nitrogen dioxide (NO2).

It will apply to all diesels, irrespective of age, including the cleanest Euro 6 models registered since 2015. Owners of petrol cars will be exempt, though research shows that older petrol vehicles release high levels of emissions.

Drivers who ignore the ban will be fined as part of the measures, due from March 2021. Motoring groups labelled the plans “unprecedented” and said that many low-income families would be hit.’ Sunday Times


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...cars-kbrlz6ttw

Anyone going to be affected by this? Fortunately mine’s a petrol.
Everything is labelled 'unprecedented' these days, it is a great way to justify any decision made by those who are in a position to make these decisions, and by those who are in no position to do anything about these decisions.

Are they going to ban buses, emergency vehicles, delivery vehicles etc.
I myself think that exhaust emissions are responsible for serious health problems and I can follow the logic behind the ban, however it may well have the effect of further putting the final nails into the coffin that most city centres have become, time will tell, after all we are living in unprecedented times, I am not sure what that really means?.
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I am also in Wellingborough and don't understand why they increased the spaces in the multi-storey as since the day it was opened the open air top floor has never been used and closed off.
Well, with 3,750 new houses on Stanton Cross and 4,000 on Glenvale Park I suspect it was forward planning!
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