UB fuel pump Magnetti Morrelli.. Any good?

champagne_charly · 6th April 2019, 12:39

What are your thoughts on Magneti Marelli UB pumps? Or pumps in general...

Althought it may be best to go for a pierberg or equivalent funds just dont allow for it.

I got a cheap unbranded from amazon and it didnt last 6 months before fuel was leaking out of the top (electrical connection side) and making its way back to the internal fuse box to find diesel all over the relays that in turn kept the relay in the on position and drained the battery as the pump wouldnt turn off even with key out.. Dont want to go there again..

ceedy · 6th April 2019, 12:49

One of these on my CDTi for over 3 years now .

this one ..

slovcan · 6th April 2019, 13:56

Apples and oranges, I know, regarding the UBP's and In-Tank Pumps, BUT I am sure the Magneti- Morelli ITP's have fallen out of favour. Hopefully one of the traders here (Jules, maybe?) who only recommends the VDO ITP can say if any of the M-M UBP's have failed early. Obviously, Ceedy's experience is good. Did you get that from a member, Ceedy?

Cheers,
Glenn

champagne_charly · 6th April 2019, 14:30

Thanks just in the nick of time. I was about to order them as a pair. as am having 1/4 tank issue so presume if not failed in tank is failing. For some reason when i was puling trailer it was an even bigger problem. Suckng more air as requiring more fuel?

Mickyboy · 6th April 2019, 15:05

Pierburg or TI Automotive they were fitted as OEM, and produce the correct pressure, I’ve tested loads and loads of other makes and find some produce adequate pressure but become noisy or don’t produce the correct pressure and start to leak at the top.

Don’t whatever you do but cheap Chinese pumps they are useless, quality parts last and cheap ones are false economy
Mick

champagne_charly · 6th April 2019, 15:57

If money was no object and car had less than 100K i woudnt hesitate. but shes done 150k (was poor body work cat D at 80K) and money sadly is an issue else id prob get a replacement car with 70-90K. ...

Yes chinese pumps as said ive had a poor experience. But Magneti Moralli are an Italian brand. How do their pumps fair? Have you had experience with them? So far good reports on the IT although possible early failures waiting to be confirmed. How about the UB?

champagne_charly · 6th April 2019, 16:28

I should have searched posts more... https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...85#post2724885

which if down to pressure as mikyboy validly stated from tests.. what about the uprated pumps mentioned here. https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...89#post2724889
Surly pressure wont be an issue doing this.

On the subject of pressure and without a T4 can we get an idea of how it is doing using a multi meter?

ceedy · 6th April 2019, 16:34

Nope just bought from Fleabay

C

Quote:

Originally Posted by slovcan

Apples and oranges, I know, regarding the UBP's and In-Tank Pumps, BUT I am sure the Magneti- Morelli ITP's have fallen out of favour. Hopefully one of the traders here (Jules, maybe?) who only recommends the VDO ITP can say if any of the M-M UBP's have failed early. Obviously, Ceedy's experience is good. Did you get that from a member, Ceedy?

Cheers,
Glenn

champagne_charly · 6th April 2019, 17:27

Ok well thanks to Miky setting the seed of doubt as to non oem pumps.. I've gone for a second hand Pierburg from car with 60K. If it lasts to 100K then thats another 40 and it will no doubt be time to change vehicle before anyway.

Knowing how to test the pressure without T4 would be useful.

Mickyboy · 7th April 2019, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by champagne_charly

Ok well thanks to Miky setting the seed of doubt as to non oem pumps.. I've gone for a second hand Pierburg from car with 60K. If it lasts to 100K then thats another 40 and it will no doubt be time to change vehicle before anyway.

Knowing how to test the pressure without T4 would be useful.

Well if you was down in Kent one day and you let me know I could pop it on my T4 and give it a health check and measure the pressure as I’m only 50 mins from Sidcup

Mick

6th April 2019, 12:39	#1
champagne_charly Regular poster 75 tourer Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sidcup Posts: 33 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	UB fuel pump Magnetti Morrelli.. Any good? What are your thoughts on Magneti Marelli UB pumps? Or pumps in general... Althought it may be best to go for a pierberg or equivalent funds just dont allow for it. I got a cheap unbranded from amazon and it didnt last 6 months before fuel was leaking out of the top (electrical connection side) and making its way back to the internal fuse box to find diesel all over the relays that in turn kept the relay in the on position and drained the battery as the pump wouldnt turn off even with key out.. Dont want to go there again.. Last edited by champagne_charly; 6th April 2019 at 12:44..

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ceedy This is my second home All Trophy Blue ,ZT260#50 , ZT CDTI Auto, ZR105+ and 1.8T Firefrost spoiling the Set . Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nr Sherborne But in Somerset.. Posts: 6,078 Thanks: 916 Thanked 1,214 Times in 768 Posts	One of these on my CDTi for over 3 years now . this one .. __________________ The Three Bloo's Wifey's Zr105, MY CDTI & 260 #50 and Number One sons 1.8T in Firefrost When I were a lad Zero to 142 in 10.25 secs at the Pod on my Blown Norton. 210 Kart Champ in 70's Last edited by ceedy; 6th April 2019 at 13:01..

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slovcan Gets stuck in 75 Tourer CDT MK2 manual in Glorious Grey Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Slovakia Posts: 987 Thanks: 926 Thanked 346 Times in 252 Posts	Apples and oranges, I know, regarding the UBP's and In-Tank Pumps, BUT I am sure the Magneti- Morelli ITP's have fallen out of favour. Hopefully one of the traders here (Jules, maybe?) who only recommends the VDO ITP can say if any of the M-M UBP's have failed early. Obviously, Ceedy's experience is good. Did you get that from a member, Ceedy? Cheers, Glenn __________________ Southern Slovakia Anything can happen in Formula 1 and usually does - Murray Walker 1999 Triumph Trophy 900, Saddlesore 1600, Iron Butt Riders Association #63720 2005 Rover 75 CDT Tourer MK2

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Mickyboy SERVICING AND DEALER DIAGNOSTICS MG ZT CDTI 135 + & MGZT CDTI AUTO 160 & ROVER 75 TOURER CDTI 160 TROPHY YELLOW Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Hernebay Posts: 4,331 Thanks: 818 Thanked 2,414 Times in 1,141 Posts	Pierburg or TI Automotive they were fitted as OEM, and produce the correct pressure, I’ve tested loads and loads of other makes and find some produce adequate pressure but become noisy or don’t produce the correct pressure and start to leak at the top. Don’t whatever you do but cheap Chinese pumps they are useless, quality parts last and cheap ones are false economy Mick __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] T4 Owner Jobs done : new UBP, Spy hole mod, Rear hub(wheel bearing),plenum cleaned and emptied, Inline thermostat fitted,Full service, In car Digital tv/DVD Bluetooth Satnav etc, Replaced UBP, Restored headlights,Fixed airbag connection.replaced HP pump,replaced rear light seals,changed intercooler O rings. Jobs to do: ,replace drivers lock,.[/SIZE]

6th April 2019, 15:57	#6
champagne_charly Regular poster 75 tourer Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sidcup Posts: 33 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If money was no object and car had less than 100K i woudnt hesitate. but shes done 150k (was poor body work cat D at 80K) and money sadly is an issue else id prob get a replacement car with 70-90K. ... Yes chinese pumps as said ive had a poor experience. But Magneti Moralli are an Italian brand. How do their pumps fair? Have you had experience with them? So far good reports on the IT although possible early failures waiting to be confirmed. How about the UB? Last edited by champagne_charly; 6th April 2019 at 16:39..

6th April 2019, 14:30	#4
champagne_charly Regular poster 75 tourer Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sidcup Posts: 33 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks just in the nick of time. I was about to order them as a pair. as am having 1/4 tank issue so presume if not failed in tank is failing. For some reason when i was puling trailer it was an even bigger problem. Suckng more air as requiring more fuel?

6th April 2019, 16:28	#7
champagne_charly Regular poster 75 tourer Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sidcup Posts: 33 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I should have searched posts more... https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...85#post2724885 which if down to pressure as mikyboy validly stated from tests.. what about the uprated pumps mentioned here. https://the75andztclub.co.uk/forum/s...89#post2724889 Surly pressure wont be an issue doing this. On the subject of pressure and without a T4 can we get an idea of how it is doing using a multi meter? Last edited by champagne_charly; 6th April 2019 at 16:38..

6th April 2019, 17:27	#9
champagne_charly Regular poster 75 tourer Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sidcup Posts: 33 Thanks: 10 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ok well thanks to Miky setting the seed of doubt as to non oem pumps.. I've gone for a second hand Pierburg from car with 60K. If it lasts to 100K then thats another 40 and it will no doubt be time to change vehicle before anyway. Knowing how to test the pressure without T4 would be useful.