JLR to be sold to the PSA group?

Lancpudn · 10th May 2019, 20:34

Just been reading Jaguar Landrover will be sold to the PSA group. I seen more mergers/take overs of the big car manufacturers soon as all of them are in line for major fines before 2021. The cost of R&D to develop/transition to BEV's would be enormous for one company alone. PSA were in talks to buy FCA (Fiat Chrysler automobiles) just recently but (FCA) have just done a deal with Tesla and reached a deal to pool their fleet together in Europe for the purpose of the latter avoiding emission requirement fines to the tune of $2billion for emission credits. This shows the sort of fines these car manufacturers are facing by 2021. https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...table-16254633

Dallas · 10th May 2019, 21:09

More than a decade ago MG Rover must have known what was coming. lol

https://www.aronline.co.uk/concepts-...-mg-tf200-hpd/

mininuts · 10th May 2019, 22:34

Our Land Rover Freelander 2 has had a PSA engine for the last 10 years

mss · 11th May 2019, 08:09

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Originally Posted by mininuts

Our Land Rover Freelander 2 has had a PSA engine for the last 10 years

As indeed have all diesel powered JLR (and Ford) cars.

AndyN01 · 11th May 2019, 08:36

Anyone might think that the industry grand plan (or maybe the accountant's grand plan) is to have just one "manufacturer" so it doesn't matter what make/model/type of car you buy......the money goes to the same place.

Andy.

Lancpudn · 11th May 2019, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyN01

Anyone might think that the industry grand plan (or maybe the accountant's grand plan) is to have just one "manufacturer" so it doesn't matter what make/model/type of car you buy......the money goes to the same place.

Andy.

Yes It looks like it's coming to that, VW has said it will sell it's new M.E.B skateboard platform to any car manufacturer who wants to put their metalwork on it and are willing to build their cars for them also.

These mergers are an exercise in joining forces to whoever has the lowest fleet emissions to lessen the fines.

Edit: Forgot to mention prior to the PSA group wanting to buy JLR, JLR were interested in buying Addison Lee a London based taxi business for $350million to buy into the future plans of mobility.

Doesn't make good reading for future private car ownership. https://www.wintonsworld.com/cool-re...-new-mobility/

e668ecp · 11th May 2019, 17:10

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Originally Posted by mss

As indeed have all diesel powered JLR (and Ford) cars.

No JLR cars have PSA engines... the Freelander 2 and Evoque have Ford Duratech engines made by Ford

mss · 11th May 2019, 17:47

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Originally Posted by e668ecp

No JLR cars have PSA engines... the Freelander 2 and Evoque have Ford Duratech engines made by Ford

Don't confuse who makes an engine with its design origin.

Read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Duratorq_engine

Then recognoise that the no should be a yes!

Vossy · 16th May 2019, 08:55

My son uses his for what it was designed for.

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AndyN01 Gets stuck in Rover 75 diesel tourer Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Tamworth Posts: 993 Thanks: 716 Thanked 457 Times in 310 Posts	Anyone might think that the industry grand plan (or maybe the accountant's grand plan) is to have just one "manufacturer" so it doesn't matter what make/model/type of car you buy......the money goes to the same place. Andy.