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Old 12th September 2019, 08:32   #371
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if this is not enough can some of ye let me know.
i taught it was a good idea but if im fooling my self
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Not really a good idea to splash high pressure water around that area and what would happen if the drains were block and the plenums filled up?

Almost any thin, flexible rod will do to clear the drains out of debris. The end of the rod should appear below the car, pushing any debris out with it. Then you can rinse them out with a little low pressure water from a hose.

They need to be checked frequently, especially if there are falling leaves, or if the car is parked under/near trees. You can buy 'gutter guards' for not a lot, from Jules, which will help prevent leaves getting in.


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Old 12th September 2019, 13:02   #372
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A big chunk of that black stuff you have, bottom left in your pic, should cure it. Right over the outlet hole.

With a clean out every two or three years maybe.--
You are bang on with the above these are fitted FOC at our Nano meets, you can purchase a round piece from any garden/fish pond outlet for £0.50p cut it in half and you have enough for both side inner top wings.

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Old 24th September 2019, 18:22   #373
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Plenums we hear so much about them and the reason why is very clear below in the photo's that follow.

And even more important this time of year with the Autum leaf fall etc.


Yesterday a member of the club Mike came to have his handbrake mod fitted, as i always do i checked the plenum's after asking if he had checked them it turned out he had only brought the car Sunday so the car was very new to him, he had looked at the plenums from the drivers side and could see some water and he also heard the sloshing sound when driving.

The results can be seen below so come on gents lets keep on top of these plenums do the spyhole mod and its only takes 2 minutes to check for water once applied.

Pic 1 water at least 3" deep
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Pic 2 The water must have been deeper at some stage according the the pollen filter marks
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Pic 3 starting to rod the plenum tube to clear the soggy leaves and dirt which as bunged up the lower tube
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Pics 4 the water starts to flush out of the plenum this went on for at least 2 mins
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Pic 5 Still pouring out strong
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Pic 6 slowly stopping with the rain we have been having this so easly could have been worse ECU damage which would have been a crying shame as this MGZT as only 20000 mile on the clock.
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Pic 7 All the water drained away this should not happen again as the spyhole mod was put in place and Mike shown how to rod them each week at the same time as checking his oil water etc.
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So lets get checking the plenums right away there is no excuse not to, all the best Arctic.
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This is how you can check your plenums if you have never checked them before this is mainly for new members that is why i have put this thread together so it is all in one place on how to check and also add the spyhole mod & leaf stopper/collector if you so wish, in my opinion worth doing.

This is the windscreen scuttle panel/outer grille which will have to be removed to start checking the plenum for water ingress below Fig1
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First peel off the weatherstrip up to the wiper fixing point at least Fig2
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Now you can press in the plastic spring clips to remove the grille panel Fig 3
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This will then allow you to remove it and store it safe for the time being Fig 4
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Next step is to remove the front screw/clip sometimes you may have to prise this up if it will not screw out.Fig 5/6
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Now removed put this safe also
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Next prise up and remove the rear scuttle clips hold your finger over the top because these can fly off sometimes never to be found again Fig7/8
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Remove the first three of these and again put them safe for re-fitting after Fig 9/10
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This will now allow you to lift the front of the scuttle and get access to the shield panel tray which needs to be removed. Fig 11
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You can grip and remove the shield panel tray and slid it carefully out from its recess Fig 12/13
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This now exposes the lower plenum and pollen filter area this is also where the ECU resides and can get damaged if water is allowed to build up because of the blocked plenum tube Fig 14
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Here you can see how i have rodded the tube with my choice of rodding tools a plumbers spring pipe bender 10mm or 15mm also note even though i check these every week that because of the deluge of rain we have had this year and month water is still getting to a certain height from the line seen on the pollen filter, this was empty when i took these photo's but must be filling even though clear because of shear volume of water Fig 15
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This shows the rodding tool i use pipe bender with a boot lace and plastic tube the reason why will be seen later in the thread. Fig 16
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The shield panel tray can now be re-fitted back into place Fig 17/18
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This photo shows the spyhole mod so the plenum cab be checked and rodded in the future with out having to remove the scuttle clips and trays. Fig 19
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Here you can see the rodding tool again in use showing why the lace and plastic tube is needed because the plenum is at least 24" deep Fig 20/21
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Here you can how the spring as come all the way through the plenum and the tube until it reaches the ground under the car Fig 22
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Once rodded and if you have the spyhole mod in place fit a rubber 25mm bung which can be easily removed rodding in the future Fig 23
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Replace the front screw clip Fig 24
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Replace the three scuttle back clips Fig 25/26
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Next replace the rubber weatherstrip Fig 27
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And last of all with the job finished refit the windscreen grille panel Fig 28/29
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The plumber spring i use with lace and plastci tube attached for the extra length needed to get to the bottom of the plenum 10mm or 15mm obtained from Toolstation, Screwfix, B&Q etc Fig 30
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Roding the plenum
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2. Cooling fan..All speeds functioning
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It looks like tinypics.com has ceased operation.
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Sadly taken over by Photobucket.
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HI Jules & Bob.
yes nearly every how to I have done as been ruined by PB taking over Tinypic it will take me months if not year's to rectify all off them, I doubt I will do them only time will tell, as I need to sike myself up to search through all the photo files etc
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HI Jules & Bob.
yes nearly every how to I have done as been ruined by PB taking over Tinypic it will take me months if not year's to rectify all off them, I doubt I will do them only time will tell, as I need to sike myself up to search through all the photo files etc
It is a problem trusting these internet services with important information. At least you have your photo files.

I bet some folk didn't do what you have done and now they've lost everything.--

I've kept my photos in my computer and also on a number of memory sticks. It would be catastrophic to lose the lot.

The work you've done ( and there's so much of it ) NEEDS those pictures.

I hope you find time to re-instate some of the most important ones.--

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If anyone still have images on Photobucket they will find that you are only able to download one at a time.
I suppose that they want to make any transfer to another host very difficult.

I went to the Google store and got the "Photobucket Album Downloader (Unlimit)" as a Chrome extension.
A bargain at £1.29 for all of the trouble it saves

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...pkeopelc?hl=en

I have found it to be brilliant and it takes about 30 secs to download 100 photos.
I retrieved 961 images in minutes, which are now safely on my own hard drive.
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Luckily in 2007 I chose Picasa run by Google and even when they stopped supporting it they transferred everything over to their Photos App.

So all my photos and hyperlinks still work .......unless anyone tells me otherwise
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Luckily in 2007 I chose Picasa run by Google and even when they stopped supporting it they transferred everything over to their Photos App.

So all my photos and hyperlinks still work .......unless anyone tells me otherwise
Just curious Jules..--Does that mean you have all your eggs in one basket, so to speak ??

If so, I hope that basket doesn't have a shelf life.---
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Just curious Jules..--Does that mean you have all your eggs in one basket, so to speak ??

If so, I hope that basket doesn't have a shelf life.---

Nope

Got backups on old PC's and duplicates on USB sticks etc..

Never rely solely with online data.
Always keep copies yourself especially if it's your livelihood
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