Testicle Pain

[Dallas]

Also, Thank you to everyone else for your kind words, I know us fellas dont really like talking about personal problems, especially health related ones. None of you are expected to read my thread/topic about achy testicles LOL and I certainly wouldn't blame you if you just clicked the 'Back' button. We've had a laugh which always helps, and this is what I enjoy the most (some friendly banter).

I suppose you could say I have reached out for some friendly support from my fellow Rover 75/ZT colleague's, it has certainly helped me a little. I think it helps try and put things in perspective, stops you from spiralling downwards into further misery. This club is so much more than just a car club, there is nothing like it... not anywhere.

Also, sorry LadyZ (Anna) for having to put up with me going on about my bits... I will apologise in person one day, Kev will have to bring you down here on his next visit.

[greendriver]

I once had to undergo a procedure called urethral dilation, because my specialist urine evacualtion tool had healed over at the end (basically a rebore). Not fun.

[Gate Keeper]

I thought hard about what I am about to say and please no more thanks Wes. Even if you went private, the outcome may well be the same. It’s a clinical decision why you have not been offered surgery based on guidelines and the measurement sizes of the veins. Whilst your condition is extremely painful or uncomfortable, it’s not life threatening and even day surgery has its risks. The doc could tell you to live with the pain on painkillers, to carry on with monitoring and reviews etc, Bear in mind with surgery there aren’t always guaranteed outcomes, but you can still discuss your options with a different Urologist surgeon. By all means ask about going private. If self-funding, you have to shop around for a set package ‘all in one deal”.

I had to wear a bag for 6 months after my bladder became blocked. It was no big deal. NHS surgery took 6 months waiting for the benign obstruction to be removed.

[Lancpudn]

My missus says I'm not allowed to have any.

[Dallas]

I did ask the question about over-producing, and why the pain is relieved after some fun & games. He couldn't answer the question, he explained that the body will absorb what it doesn't use or need. I did say to him that this isn't happening in my case, its obviously swelling the epididymis, this is what swells and gets unbelievably tender and painful. This is when he said to go back to the urologist, my previous visit was back in 2012.

Originally Posted by Gate Keeper

I thought hard about what I am about to say and please no more thanks Wes. Even if you went private, the outcome may well be the same. It’s a clinical decision why you have not been offered surgery based on guidelines and the measurement sizes of the veins. Whilst your condition is extremely painful or uncomfortable, it’s not life threatening and even day surgery has its risks. The doc could tell you to live with the pain on painkillers, to carry on with monitoring and reviews etc, Bear in mind with surgery there aren’t always guaranteed outcomes, but you can still discuss your options with a different Urologist surgeon. By all means ask about going private. If self-funding, you have to shop around for a set package ‘all in one deal”.

I had to wear a bag for 6 months after my bladder became blocked. It was no big deal. NHS surgery took 6 months waiting for the benign obstruction to be removed.

I totally agree Phil, this was the exact same discussion I had with the urologist back in 2012, also my GP before Christmas. The urologist said the problem is most probably a swelling of the epididymis, that an operation could/can make the situation worst. He told me that they could remove part or all of the epididymis, but theres no guarantee it would solve the problem. I suppose there are case's where the operation has failed for a certain percentage of patients, they obviously use this as a guideline as you have suggested.

To be honest, I'm not even sure I could go through with the operation, even though with all this discomfort that I suffer on a day to day basis it wearing me down. I must have a high pain tolerance thats for sure, this must stem from suffering from Trigeminal Neuralgia for all these years. I've now developed a phobia surrounding medication, this is all due to the cocktail of drugs that I was prescribed at the beginning of my diagnoses. The side-effects from the medication were horrendous, so I soon learnt to cope without the drugs.

I guest you just learn to cope, you build up a defence mentally. But still, its very hard at times, the pain really does take its toll on my body. I was only 35 when I was diagnosed with trigeminal neuralgia, exactly the same time when all this testicle pain started. I suppose living for the past 10 years in pain each and everyday does have a massive impact on ones life, it certainly does change you in a way you cant avoid. But! I reckon I've done well, I've not let it beat me yet. I'm a happy-go-lucky type of guy, I'm sure those who have met me will agree you certainly wouldn't know I'm in pain (I do hide it well). I've always hidden it from my daughters when they were younger, its only recently they have seen me in pain from time to time, I'm just like my father I guest.

Anyway! I'm going to make another appointment with my GP next week, and ask him to send me to the urologist again. I'm going to ask for a further investigation and see what my options are, but I reckon you're correct Phil when you mention 'Pain Management'. This may be my one and only option, I guest its something that is already familiar to me...

Thanks again for everyone's input, it certainly has helped.

[Dallas]

Maybe I should try something like this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9P7LTx4lwA

[Gate Keeper]

Another option Wes, when everything else has failed or when the pain is intractable, is to ask for an Orchidectomy - removal of the troubled testicle and a prosthetic one fitted for cosmetics. It sounds drastic but it is not uncommon as an alternative to taking heavy duty analgesics. Years ago I cared for a chap who had intractable pain for his leg, following injuries he had sustained from stepping on a landline. He was fed up of living on Opiates and of being dopey all of the time. The pain had made him feel suicidal. He convinced the surgeon to amputate his leg. He said it was life changing, but it was the best decision ever taken. An Orchidectomy is a big decision to take and something to discuss with your wife and specialist.

[lady zed]

Hmmmm very interesting the 2 conditions started around the same time and in a lack of apparent cause for the testicular pain, that would suggest it's connected. Found this....

Genitofemoral neuralgia causes intermittent or constant inguinal, testicular, and upper medial thigh pain. ... Neuralgia results from nerve entrapment following appendectomy or a hernia repair. Neurectomy of the genitofemoral nerve within the abdomen brings relief.

Have they considered this?

And I chose to read Wes, don't worry about me having to put up lol but def no need to show me when we finally meet

[Bogbrush82]

Originally Posted by lady zed

Genitofemoral neuralgia causes intermittent or constant inguinal, testicular, and upper medial thigh pain. ... Neuralgia results from nerve entrapment following appendectomy or a hernia repair. Neurectomy of the genitofemoral nerve within the abdomen brings relief.

Oh good lord!

And I thought having it in your gums was bad enough!!!!

[Dallas]

Originally Posted by lady zed

Hmmmm very interesting the 2 conditions started around the same time and in a lack of apparent cause for the testicular pain, that would suggest it's connected. Found this....

Genitofemoral neuralgia causes intermittent or constant inguinal, testicular, and upper medial thigh pain. ... Neuralgia results from nerve entrapment following appendectomy or a hernia repair. Neurectomy of the genitofemoral nerve within the abdomen brings relief.

Have they considered this?

And I chose to read Wes, don't worry about me having to put up lol but def no need to show me when we finally meet

Blooming ek! Neuralgia of the testicles, you got to be kidding me, that would explain everything. I thought my GP was joking when I mentioned to him in humour that it feels like I have neuralgia of the testicle, he said something like it is possible... but he said it with laughter, so I thought he was joking.

I wonder... would this explain why I get the horrendous ache in the groin area, and down my leg to my foot. This gets very painful and effects my walking (or should I say limping). When the pain is at its worst, my leg doesn't want to work properly, must be due to the pain I guest. Plus my ankle joint cracks/clicks during movement, this only happens when my right testicle, right leg and foot are in pain. When the pain in the right testicle reduces, the groin pain, leg and foot pain stops, also no more cracking in my ankle joint. It sounds as though a nerve is getting trapped, or the swelling in the testicle is pressing against a main nerve which is effecting the leg and foot... It just sounds so obvious to me...

I've not had a appendectomy or a hernia repair though, but still! there must be a connection somewhere. I will certainly mention this to the doc next week, surely the Urologist should know more about this, or maybe I need to see a Neurologist again.

Anna, Thank you for taking the time to search for some answers, I am very much grateful for your input. Oh! and... I've had them examined enough times now, I'm not at all shy you know. lol I'll have Kev sorting me out in a minute.

I'm off down the scrapyard with Ian G later today, I haven't told Ian yet that he may have to hold me up as I'm in some discomfort this morning. I'm sure I can get him to give me a Darydog (Clive's Doctor) massage do you think he will mind?

So if anyone wants us to look for some easy to take off parts, give me a shout, we will try our best.