Handbrake NOT working after brake overhaul.

[Martin Butler]

@ Caskin, did you at any time have the first cable off , because if you havn't the clip shouldn't have moved, its a press in fit, and uses two ears to clip into place, they very rarely break, often mechanics will take it out, and lose it, or forget to put it back in, the only other thing i can think of is it wasn't put back on right, and didnt clip fully home,in qhich case it will be lying in the handbrake mounting somewhere, i looked on line and they appear to be rare as hens teeth,

[clf]

Originally Posted by Caskin

Thanks for your reply....At the moment I have no intention in accessing the compensator, as prior to my "interference maintenance" the handbrake worked perfectly, fully holding at 3/4 clicks. It was purely because I had the system stripped down, that on reassembly it made sense to check drum adjustment prior to fitting wheels. Had I left it alone I would now be ready for the road.(I believe its called sods law!)
I did once have some input from a member in Plymouth who came across as a really nice guy, but he never showed, so I left it as I do not like putting folks out.
But no worries Martin I'll get there, like you I'm convinced it must be the black clip but until I follow Artics excellent "how to" I wont know. Weather down here has changed for the worst so it will have to go on hold, but once I figure it out I will post back the results.

Look through the inspection panel from.below to see if the compensator is still attached to the two.cables, as martin states.

If the cables are still attached at the drum.end, this is the only other place where it would 'give slackness'.

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[Arctic]

Originally Posted by Martin Butler

@ Caskin, did you at any time have the first cable off , because if you havn't the clip shouldn't have moved, its a press in fit, and uses two ears to clip into place, they very rarely break, often mechanics will take it out, and lose it, or forget to put it back in, the only other thing i can think of is it wasn't put back on right, and didnt clip fully home,in qhich case it will be lying in the handbrake mounting somewhere,

How many teeth does an hen have, quite a few going by my hen at least 8 at the top and 6 at the bottom

[hogweed]

Originally Posted by Arctic

How many teeth does an hen have, quite a few going by my hen at least 8 at the top and 6 at the bottom

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[Caskin]

Hi Martin NO, at no time have I interfered with cables in any way, but have carried out countless handbrake adjustments on Rovers owned over many years,(has always been car of choice from the first time I saw one.) And throughout all those adjustments this is the first time I have incurred this problem!!!
It will be a miracle if the black clip is not in place, but there's just a chance, so I'm going to follow Arctics instructions and take a peek. Although the car is in remarkable condition I have come across a few shoddy servicing items (done by a garage to original elderly owners!!)so wouldn't be surprised if it was not there.
Also as far as the black clip is concerned there is more than one way of skinning a cat!! Bit like hens teeth really!

[Caskin]

Hi Martin Have sent you a PM

[Martin Butler]

Originally Posted by Caskin

Hi Martin Have sent you a PM

Thanks i have just replied to it, i have been thinking about your issue, and best to go back to basics, first, remove the handbrake gaiter, check the amount of thread showing beyond the nut, it should be 25mm, with the wheels chocked, take the handbrake off, pull on the cable, does it move? if yes, then you need to look more in depth, because something clearly is amiss,
When you adjusted the drums, did you turn the wheel on the adjuster until the shoes are almost binding you should only just be able to turn the wheel by hand, the shoes should be dragging slightly, My money is on the either the compensator having stretched, or the clip wasn't properly in, and its fallen out,

[clf]

Originally Posted by Caskin

Hi Martin NO, at no time have I interfered with cables in any way,

Except you have. When I loosen the handbrake adjuster, the compensator lowers onto the tunnel, and one of the nipples became loose. It could be possible, especially coupled with a stretched compensator, that the cables have dropped out.



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[goltho]

Originally Posted by clf

Except you have. When I loosen the handbrake adjuster, the compensator lowers onto the tunnel, and one of the nipples became loose. It could be possible, especially coupled with a stretched compensator, that the cables have dropped out.

I'll second that, having changed my compensator a couple of months ago and seen that.

Dougie.

[Caskin]

Originally Posted by Martin Butler

Thanks i have just replied to it, i have been thinking about your issue, and best to go back to basics, first, remove the handbrake gaiter, check the amount of thread showing beyond the nut, it should be 25mm, with the wheels chocked, take the handbrake off, pull on the cable, does it move? if yes, then you need to look more in depth, because something clearly is amiss,
When you adjusted the drums, did you turn the wheel on the adjuster until the shoes are almost binding you should only just be able to turn the wheel by hand, the shoes should be dragging slightly, My money is on the either the compensator having stretched, or the clip wasn't properly in, and its fallen out,

Hi Yes as stated in earlier answers, in fact the first part of your question is where this started as I prepared to adjust handbrake shoes. (also to hark back to the "Good old Days" the only way to adjust all the brakes which were drum and disc was as per the Rovers Rear brake shoes)
Also as mentioned after I adjusted rear shoes,(which I have done on Rovers any amount of times) I then went back to the car to carry out final adjustment and that's when I discovered adjustment was impossible, as the cable/adjuster was free to move back and fore??
So BACK to the dreaded BLACK clip???
Weather ha improved slightly here only 6" of water now so perhaps I can crack on and follow Arctics directions to see if short cable is in place or not!!!
Plus I think the hint from Arctic reference hens teeth that he just might have the odd black clp laying around. Get back later and thanks.