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Old 28th January 2022, 14:11   #1
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Default Never passed a test or had insurance for 70 years.

Now here's a first. And been driving since he was TWELVE.
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Old 28th January 2022, 17:35   #2
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Hats off to him for apparently never having had an accident.

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Old 28th January 2022, 18:04   #3
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Experience has proved this point. I doubt he will be able to officially gain a licence.
Police who confront drivers in private car parks must ensure they have their evidence to pursue summons action.
It would be interesting to see what transpires.
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Old 28th January 2022, 18:07   #4
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I used to work with a guy years ago who had ''never got around to taking his test''. He had started driving when he was in his teens as he used to take his Mother to hospital as his father had left them years before. He had never been asked for a driving licence and had been driving for 25 years or more with no trouble.



He eventually got caught when the Police were doing spot checks on his way home and thought he had got away with it as he had insurance, MOT and tax but the Police officer asked for him to show his licence and of course could not. He ended up with a large fine and when he took his test passed first time.


I wonder how many others there are out there, I was reading a report last year and they reckon as many as 1 in 8 people driving on the roads are not properly insured.
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Old 28th January 2022, 18:12   #5
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If he's never had insurance, did he never buy a tax disc in his seventy years of driving? Has he ever been the registered keeper of a car? As it stands, the story doesn't quite stand up.

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I was always impressed by my grandfather's licence, never did a test, (grandfather rights I believe they are colloquially known), but on every renewal, it stated 'all groups'. That included class 1 HGVs (or whatever they were known as until at least 1998 - the year he died)!

I have some grandfather rights on my licence too, but nothing like his.

In NI it was difficult though not to be stopped at some time (checkpoints were a very frequent and random occurrence)and be asked to produce. Being stopped by an army only checkpoint (although they were rare), was no concern, as any ID was sufficient (could even be drunk!), but most checkpoints were accompanied by police (due to their legal powers) and if you didnt have a licence on you, depending on their or your attitude, they could proceed to check over the car for roadworthiness, then ask you to produce all your documents at a police station within 14 days - the days before internet/network access. But if you had a decent attitude (first thing was to switch headlights to sidelights), and were forthcoming with bank cards or other ids if your licence was not with you, you could get away without mot or tax............. apparently
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Old 29th January 2022, 22:59   #7
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If he's never had insurance, did he never buy a tax disc in his seventy years of driving? Has he ever been the registered keeper of a car? As it stands, the story doesn't quite stand up.

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Quite agree. Too many cameras about to read number plates for it to be true.--
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Old 29th January 2022, 23:44   #8
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Quite agree. Too many cameras about to read number plates for it to be true.--
I think whilst hard to comprehend, it is not impossible. Never registered a car, auto generated tickets for speeding and such like, would have nowhere to go. On board ANPR cameras are a relatively recent device, and even then, not on every patrol car (at least not until very recently?). Living in a quiet village or town too perhaps?

Then you have age as a factor, perhaps driving to and from the shops, and the odd excursion only slightly further away and not via motorways (less chance of encountering interceptor type police), over the past 20 years - thinking a lesser desire to drive due to less confidence that seems common with age (at least common with folk I know over 65).

Obviously if driving now, from the age of twelve (or even 17), such transgressions would be even more unlikely to be successful.
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My father never passed a driving test, as he was one who started driving during the war and was give a license at the end.
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My father never passed a driving test, as he was one who started driving during the war and was give a license at the end.
In my teens I worked with a couple of males who never passed a test. Not sure about a license. However, they were born pre-1930 and they told me tests were introduced just before WW2. This re-call is subject to a loss of memory cells over the years. However, we are able to check dates with an internet search.

As for your dad, I would have thought the Army's vehicle test would be sufficient for the local authorities (were they still responsible in the early post war years?).

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