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Old 8th March 2021, 21:03   #41
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I'd like to get in quick before this interesting thread gets exterminated.

I've read right through it but there's something nobody has mentioned.

How about those that have contracted the virus and survived it by producing the anti-virus needed to combat it ??---( without the need of the vaccine. )

The vaccine is designed to have this effect so we are combat ready. Back to the original subject of this thread.

People who have been infected should be issued with a certificate to say they now have the anti-bodies required in their system shown to be true after a test.

No need to take the vaccine, which will suit those who don't want the jab, but still have the ability to go on holiday when they want without restriction.

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Old 9th March 2021, 07:29   #42
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It goes just a bit deeper than an 'opportunity' Andy. It's like taking candy from a kid to rob on-line and the amounts taken are unlimited.

It takes either madness or total guts to pull a stick-up or worse in the park for a few tenners. When all that floating cash is in one place you don't even have get out of bed to rob it, with very little chance of getting your collar felt.

Once again business cuts out a huge expense and passes the risk to the customer. Brilliant.
For goodness sakes money has been kept digitally for years, doing it in the future is nothing new. I agree people have had their bank accounts robbed but it is not new, don't make out it is. I do get the feeling, perhaps, hopefully , I don't know that you are trying to sell an existing fear, problem as something new and as part of a cunning plan.

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Old 9th March 2021, 10:35   #43
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Wow, certainly a siege mentality in that! Who said it was new?

Who was making out. Me? Selling? Not even remotely– and certainly not any kind of fear – neither invented nor real. That ship sailed some time ago, keeling in the wind from Port to Starboard from being loaded to the gunnels with phoney contradictory figures extrapolated from a Hans Christian Anderson fable machine. In this case one that is packed with grinning fools! A cunning plan? What have you been smoking?

That’s exactly the kind of thing that gets threads closed! Perhaps a second reading, rather less jaundiced, might help quell the hyperbole! I’m sorry to say the last sentence escaped my understanding!
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Old 9th March 2021, 13:08   #44
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I wonder what travel insurance polices positions will be if someone travels abroad and has not have the two covid vaccine jabs and then gets covid? In fact what is it now if you travel to a country without having had the recommended vaccines by choice and catch one of the bugs that the vaccine would protect you from?

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Old 9th March 2021, 15:55   #45
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Technology is good, however placing too much faith in technology will come back and bite us all in the xxxx, there are too many examples where total reliance on technology has led to chaos, no wonder the average university student needs an calculator to do basic addition, and the average school pupil can't even read, but they all can pass exams, and some of them even get to serve in the government, when they grow up, go figure as they say.
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Old 9th March 2021, 16:40   #46
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Technology is good, however placing too much faith in technology will come back and bite us all in the xxxx, there are too many examples where total reliance on technology has led to chaos, no wonder the average university student needs an calculator to do basic addition, and the average school pupil can't even read, but they all can pass exams, and some of them even get to serve in the government, when they grow up, go figure as they say.
Indeed you are right, reading an A-Z, map, Atlas is a skill lost to the sat nav.

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but 160 remap is better sorry

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I guess it would be interesting to find out the percentage difference of how many became immune by themselves to the number of those who became immune by having the jab.

Personally I would guess self immunity would be far higher than those from the vaccine.

I expect too that many having the jab might have already become immune. Something, perhaps, we will never know.---
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