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I'm not famiiar with E85 . Am I right in thinking it would be even more agressive to our cars than E10 ?
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There is a Government Check site to see if your vehicle can use E10, It says....."No compatibility information for Rover cars is available as the manufacturer no longer trades. It is therefore not recommended to use E10 petrol" https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-e10-petrol
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It's an urbain legend. Plenty of E85 here in France and more and more people are fuelling with E85 essentially because it's cheaper. Every car mate since 1990 around is able to accept it and I know several guys who are using E85 since years. The truth is it can clear the engine of cr.p but without any damage. It looks then efficient and useful.
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I looked on Briggs & Stratton's website this morning regarding my lawn mower & it was a bit confusing It says E10 petrol is acceptable in their petrol mower engines but further looking on their website it says...... ethanol-blended fuels like E10 can lead to rust or corrosion within your engine if the fuel is not treated with a fuel stabilizer.
So we need a fuel stabiliser now!!!
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I cannot use fuels for my Daytona containing ethanol as it has a plastic fuel tank.
On E5, let alone E10, they end up looking like this: As well as paint bubbling they can also swell up and deform. I use Esso Supreme which is ethanol free in my neck of the woods. They have recently launched Esso Supreme 99, which is also ethanol free. Info here and here. I am going to continue to use that in my bike, lawn mower and brush cutter. The way things are going, in the future I will probably have to get something like this http://www.ethanil.co.uk/
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Our cars have plastic fuel tanks ! They seem to have survived E5 ok however
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The issue is that there are different types of plastic, some are ok with ethanol and others are not. Dorchester2 has not had any problems and I suspect it wouldn't be an issue for our cars.
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Dorset Bob is right but to be perfectly clear and comprehensive to all, I can say that corrosion problems might (might and not should!) occur provided the three conditions below are meeting at the same time:
- you should have E85 only in your tank (E5 or E10 lost in a tank of 90 or 95% common fuel, that's peanuts!), - you should leave you tank with less than a quarter charge, the fewer the worse, - you shouldn't use your car during 6 months at least, preferably one whole year or more Why? Ethanol is not at all corrosive but the car being at standstill, and due only to meteorological & natural phenomena (outside temperature & hygrometry), condensation may appear in the nearly empty fuel tank hence that water mixed with the remaining highly ethanol proportioned fuel may produce formic (or methanoic) acid. Moreover then better to have a plastic tank than a metal one for that reason. Every modern plastic tank is strong enough to be safe. To make a long story short E5 or E10 will have no detrimental effect at all on our cars. Hence neither tank, nor gaskets, nor hoses you name it could be harmed by so little a proportion. You can sleep well: MG Rover cars and all others since 1990 are absolutely safe. But in reverse it's useless to say that carburettors & non unleaded fuelled cars should never see a drop of ethanol. They weren't made for that.
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