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Old 20th December 2021, 22:05   #71
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I wonder if the wind stops blowing or is blowing to hard so wind turbines cant then produce power and you have cloudy weather reducing solar panels to 50%
in this brave new world of sole reliance on electrical consumption, i doubt there
will be enough base load power supply to keep the power grid operating.
My guess is it will still be fossil fuel power generation that will be needed to bail out the green power consumption at times like that.
Im sorry to say, all these people talking this green new revolution as the fix all
are in for a reality check.
In the end,One thing you cant fudge is reality!

Probably the reason they are spending Millions on developing Fusion. I am sure it will happen but probably not for a long time.
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Old 20th December 2021, 23:03   #72
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I was out for a 250+ miles drive on Saturday, including 100+ miles on the M25. I was surprised at the number of Tesla and Jaguar I-Pace on the M25. None of the drivers, all in the outer one or two lanes, looked particularly stressed about running out of charge.

I think many contributors are incorrectly thinking about electric cars primarily in terms of replacing fossil fuel with an alternative. Yet anyone who drives around our cities will see them also as a means of diluting high concentrations of air pollution in our cities.
Anyone not convinced need only drive along the North Circular and look at the colour of houses that were painted white or cream only a few years ago. The same stuff that has changed the wall colours ends up inside lungs in high concentrations.
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Old 21st December 2021, 09:26   #73
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I wonder if the wind stops blowing or is blowing to hard so wind turbines cant then produce power and you have cloudy weather reducing solar panels to 50%
in this brave new world of sole reliance on electrical consumption, i doubt there
will be enough base load power supply to keep the power grid operating.
My guess is it will still be fossil fuel power generation that will be needed to bail out the green power consumption at times like that.
Im sorry to say, all these people talking this green new revolution as the fix all
are in for a reality check.
In the end,One thing you cant fudge is reality!

It would be unaffordable with the upcoming ETS carbon pricing carbon pricing levied on it, It hasn't started yet & the price of carbon credits is already at a record high & slated to top €100/metric tonne by the end of this month, That's enough to put 80p on the gallon of petrol/diesel right now, What it will be in two years time is anybodies guess but I doubt it will be coming down.


Reading the latest news from transport minister Trudy Harrison yesterday, we probably wont need any more electricity production.




"Shared mobility must become ‘the norm’ across the UK, says Transport Minister, Trudy Harrison.
Addressing the Collaborative Mobility UK (CoMoUK) annual shared transport conference, Trudy Harrison said the country needs to move away from ’20th-century thinking centred around private vehicle ownership’ and introduce ‘greater flexibility, with personal choice and low carbon shared transport.’ "



https://airqualitynews.com/2021/12/2...says-minister/
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Old 21st December 2021, 12:22   #74
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Some even ended their time being used as shoreside power stations for remote towns.
Yes, I can believe that because as you know motors and generators are not that dissimilar in construction and can be run in either mode. This seems to have escaped the attention of the motor industry which I think has always used a separate starter motor and a generator/alternator configuration. A dual-role starter-generator is not uncommon in the aviation industry and safeguards do have to be put in place in multi-engine configurations to prevent say one AC generator driving another as a motor when their outputs are combined. Allegedly.

They also made ships out of concrete during WW2 because of metal shortages. We still have the sunken hull of a concrete tugboat in our local river, it is The Cretehawser and a few of them were built with "Crete" incorporated into their name because of what they were made with. It was deliberately beached on the river bank at the end of its life. Click
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Several manufacturers have fitted dynastart systems to their vehicles over the years - early Talbots, Morris (Bullnose), BMW Isetta, Heinkel Trojan, Goggomobile, Messerschmitt and Berkeley to name a few.
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Old 21st December 2021, 19:44   #76
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Reading the latest news from transport minister Trudy Harrison yesterday, we probably wont need any more electricity production.




"Shared mobility must become ‘the norm’ across the UK, says Transport Minister, Trudy Harrison.
Addressing the Collaborative Mobility UK (CoMoUK) annual shared transport conference, Trudy Harrison said the country needs to move away from ’20th-century thinking centred around private vehicle ownership’ and introduce ‘greater flexibility, with personal choice and low carbon shared transport.’ "



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That is a a great idea but totally inpractical, so when you get you car out you start ringing round to see who else needs a lift to where you are going? I can see the shared lift to work as a good idea but if anybody else has tried that in the past rarely works unless you all work the same shifts and live within a few miles of each other.


For me part of the driving experince is having what I want on the radio or what ever I am listening too, probably louder than a passenger would like and I want the car the temp I want not someone in the passenger seat saying it is too hot or cold.
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Reading the latest news from transport minister Trudy Harrison yesterday, we probably wont need any more electricity production.


"Shared mobility must become ‘the norm’ across the UK, says Transport Minister, Trudy Harrison.
Addressing the Collaborative Mobility UK (CoMoUK) annual shared transport conference, Trudy Harrison said the country needs to move away from ’20th-century thinking centred around private vehicle ownership’ and introduce ‘greater flexibility, with personal choice and low carbon shared transport.’ "



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I don't doubt they will be excluding themselves from anything unclean as that!

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Old 22nd December 2021, 19:37   #78
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"Shared mobility must become ‘the norm’ across the UK, says Transport Minister, Trudy Harrison.
Addressing the Collaborative Mobility UK (CoMoUK) annual shared transport conference, Trudy Harrison said the country needs to move away from ’20th-century thinking centred around private vehicle ownership’ and introduce ‘greater flexibility, with personal choice and low carbon shared transport.’ "



https://airqualitynews.com/2021/12/2...says-minister/
Shared transport, how does that work with Covid/Omicron which isn’t going away anytime soon? (Share a vehicle with effective strangers whilst distancing for any given time during a journey on a daily basis!).
Is that a case of ‘do’ and ‘don’t’ simultaneously?
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It feels like some members are just not in tune with the problems that the planet and mankind faces. They are thinking in terms of 'how will I do the things that I do now' as opposed 'how will we need to change in order to survive and make sure that our grandchildren are not born with serious health issues and deformities'.

Addressing the critical problems that the planet and mankind faces will require us to think differently and readily embrace change of lifestyle.
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It feels like some members are just not in tune with the problems that the planet and mankind faces.
At the moment the imminent problem mankind faces is the virus, although I suppose if enough of us succumb to it that would benefit the planet with reduced use of resources and less emissions.
Remember we need to change to limit the spread of the virus, or there may be no grandchildren to worry about, regardless of the state of the environment.

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