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clf · 26th February 2022, 20:16

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Originally Posted by Borg Warner

The cuts are old news now, throughout all branches of the country's armed forces. Sadly.

As for reporting the movements of said military, pretty certain Russian military intelligence will be more than aware of location, disposition and strength. Not only those of the UK but all NATO members, just as NATO was aware of Russian military build-up prior to this all kicking off.

Just hope they all come home.

And those cuts reversed.

another potential reason for (additional?) moving NATO (inc British) troops to estonia, and other countries surrounding Ukraine, would be to maintain a corridor for weapons to be shipped into and for Ukraine.

Andy_with_a_screwdriver · 26th February 2022, 22:02

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Originally Posted by roverbarmy

Flightradar 24 around the Black Sea, makes interesting watching right now, with airborne tankers and drones!

KAYAK41 and FORTE11 (All on t'internet, before anyone starts jumping on me for official secrets etc!)

UK & US Boeing RC135 Rivet joint spy planes have been over Ukraine and neighbouring countries for over a week now, along with the Global Hawks.
US Stratotankers also using LAGR flight IDs.

wraymond · 27th February 2022, 08:13

I read today the Swift sanction has been invoked. So, a financial response is a start. Money talks, eh.

SCP440 · 27th February 2022, 08:36

If the Russian economy collapsed I wonder what that will do too Puttin and all his cronies. If there Billions of Rubels are not worth the paper the paper they are written on he will struggle to maintain his strangle hold on it all. Yes I am sure they have money stashed around the world but with travel bans and all transactions being looked at it will be a problem for them.

mileshawk56 · 27th February 2022, 08:49

Reality check, Putin is not going to stop at the Ukraine and sanctions are not going to be any more effective than they were against Iraq. Best plan is to join the Communist Party of Great Britain, hopefully that may put one at the front of the line for the weekly ration. Chris.S.

wraymond · 27th February 2022, 13:27

If only it were so simple. No matter how many Roubles are stashed away all over the world, much of it in China or a dependency thereof, Russia has the worlds greatest stash of the only currency that really matters. Gold.

Held permanently in Moscow (somewhere) it amounts to an alleged 2,300 tons of the stuff. Currently valued in the region of £104 billion, it is tradeable on virtually every market in the world without rude questions being asked. Russia even started to sell all their American dollars to reduce their dependence on that trade.

World Gold Council says: 'Gold is an asset the Russians physically own and hold in Russia and can do what they like with it. It has no credit risk and it is an internationally recognised asset'. It is guaranteed to increase in value no matter what happens to raw currency.

It might be reasonable to expect someone, who knows whom, to start to buy (or leverage) another country's debt burden. Result? Serious destabilisation.

coolcat · 27th February 2022, 14:07

Nuclear brinkmanship is now being played out!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60542877

Borg Warner · 27th February 2022, 15:32

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Originally Posted by coolcat

Nuclear brinkmanship is now being played out!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60542877

DEFCON 5 Anyone?

Wonder if Faslane Lane is empty yet?

SCP440 · 27th February 2022, 15:50

And we thought Covid was bad

. At this rate we wont have a world left if Putin pushes the button.

He must be mad, the world has had 75 Years of relative peace with growing economies and prosperity and he could destroy all of that for ever. Hopefully one of his cronies will point out that the world after Nuclear Armagedon will not be worth living in.

Borg Warner · 27th February 2022, 16:24

Some seem to think he's not well:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...Putin-mad.html

Just watching RT before it gets shutdown.

Worrying, very worrying.

27th February 2022, 08:13	#53
wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,193 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	I read today the Swift sanction has been invoked. So, a financial response is a start. Money talks, eh. __________________ member no. 235

27th February 2022, 13:27	#56
wraymond This is my second home 75 Auto 2.5 SE Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Westcliff on Sea Posts: 5,193 Thanks: 423 Thanked 1,680 Times in 1,014 Posts	If only it were so simple. No matter how many Roubles are stashed away all over the world, much of it in China or a dependency thereof, Russia has the worlds greatest stash of the only currency that really matters. Gold. Held permanently in Moscow (somewhere) it amounts to an alleged 2,300 tons of the stuff. Currently valued in the region of £104 billion, it is tradeable on virtually every market in the world without rude questions being asked. Russia even started to sell all their American dollars to reduce their dependence on that trade. World Gold Council says: 'Gold is an asset the Russians physically own and hold in Russia and can do what they like with it. It has no credit risk and it is an internationally recognised asset'. It is guaranteed to increase in value no matter what happens to raw currency. It might be reasonable to expect someone, who knows whom, to start to buy (or leverage) another country's debt burden. Result? Serious destabilisation. __________________ member no. 235 Last edited by wraymond; 27th February 2022 at 14:59..

27th February 2022, 14:07	#57
coolcat This is my second home Audi Q3 TDI S-Line Quattro Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Clacton On Sea/On the boat somewhere Posts: 51,154 Thanks: 9,890 Thanked 12,235 Times in 8,232 Posts	Nuclear brinkmanship is now being played out! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60542877 __________________ Jeff.

27th February 2022, 08:36	#54
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	If the Russian economy collapsed I wonder what that will do too Puttin and all his cronies. If there Billions of Rubels are not worth the paper the paper they are written on he will struggle to maintain his strangle hold on it all. Yes I am sure they have money stashed around the world but with travel bans and all transactions being looked at it will be a problem for them.

27th February 2022, 08:49	#55
mileshawk56 Posted a thing or two MGZT Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Berkshire Posts: 1,281 Thanks: 1,738 Thanked 299 Times in 216 Posts	Reality check, Putin is not going to stop at the Ukraine and sanctions are not going to be any more effective than they were against Iraq. Best plan is to join the Communist Party of Great Britain, hopefully that may put one at the front of the line for the weekly ration. Chris.S.

27th February 2022, 15:50	#59
SCP440 I really should get out more....... MG ZT-T 260 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Witney Posts: 2,504 Thanks: 6 Thanked 910 Times in 571 Posts	And we thought Covid was bad . At this rate we wont have a world left if Putin pushes the button. He must be mad, the world has had 75 Years of relative peace with growing economies and prosperity and he could destroy all of that for ever. Hopefully one of his cronies will point out that the world after Nuclear Armagedon will not be worth living in.

27th February 2022, 16:24	#60
Borg Warner I really should get out more....... None Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2,579 Thanks: 494 Thanked 657 Times in 402 Posts	Some seem to think he's not well: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...Putin-mad.html Just watching RT before it gets shutdown. Worrying, very worrying.