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Old 15th May 2020, 15:03   #1
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Are people really that stupid?

Not many of us are liking the imposed lock down but they are doing it for our own wellbeing.

I get it people don't like there social liberties being changed but don't they get it, this Virus can KILL or make you very ill.

Yes a lot of people have just had a mild illness or been unwell for a few days but there are a lot of people that have life changing medical problems from this like strokes, permanent lung problems and Guillain-Barre ( look it up). A friend of my wife has had this disorder from something else 3 years ago and she still cannot hold an eating implement or drinking utensil.

80 years ago the population had to have worse than this for 5 years, this has been only 8 weeks and if the population start socially reacting again before the virus is properly under control a lot more people will die.

Here is a thought, IF they come up with a vaccine tomorrow and IF they have plentiful supply to do the population and if they can vaccinate a million people a day that will take over 8 weeks. No wonder they are saying don't make any plans for holidays this year because they cant possibly vaccinate that many people that quickly even if we had the vaccine and we probably wont have it for at least 6 months. My guess if a vaccine does become available it will take them up to a year to vaccinate us all.
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Old 15th May 2020, 15:19   #2
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You are assuming everyone will want to be vaccinated. I refuse a flu vaccination every year when it’s offered me. I think we are all building up our expectations with regard to a silver bullet type of vaccination. I may be that the best they can come up with is something like the flu vaccination.
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Old 15th May 2020, 17:15   #3
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Are people really that stupid?

Not many of us are liking the imposed lock down but they are doing it for our own wellbeing.

I get it people don't like there social liberties being changed but don't they get it, this Virus can KILL or make you very ill.

Yes a lot of people have just had a mild illness or been unwell for a few days but there are a lot of people that have life changing medical problems from this like strokes, permanent lung problems and Guillain-Barre ( look it up). A friend of my wife has had this disorder from something else 3 years ago and she still cannot hold an eating implement or drinking utensil.

80 years ago the population had to have worse than this for 5 years, this has been only 8 weeks and if the population start socially reacting again before the virus is properly under control a lot more people will die.

Here is a thought, IF they come up with a vaccine tomorrow and IF they have plentiful supply to do the population and if they can vaccinate a million people a day that will take over 8 weeks. No wonder they are saying don't make any plans for holidays this year because they cant possibly vaccinate that many people that quickly even if we had the vaccine and we probably wont have it for at least 6 months. My guess if a vaccine does become available it will take them up to a year to vaccinate us all.
I'd like them to interview some of the protesters so they can explain why they are protesting, perhaps then take them to a covid 19 AE without giving them PPE.

I genuinely would like them to explain why they protest?

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Old 15th May 2020, 19:55   #4
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Problem is most of these protesters haven't seen any real impact on their lives or families beyond financial loss of income and they view the problem as only affecting the elderly and sections of the ethnic minorities. Moreover with the sort of idiotic statements made by some in power (Trump and other cronies in the world) its not seen as a real problem. I think their time will come when their own loved ones are infected and start dying. Hope for a vaccine is a good thing but when you consider that other corona viruses like SARS and Mers have been around since 2002 and still no cure or vaccine. Similarly I suspect this will be with us for a long time and like all viruses may become seasonal like flu so changes to the way we all live may become more of the norm. That will really pee them off
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The protests are being organised by Jayda Fransen, the far right anti muslim friend of Tommy Robinson.
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Old 15th May 2020, 20:28   #6
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Not trying to generalise here to much but I suspect the majority of people protesting will be the younger members of our society whos main hobby is spending most of there hard earnt on getting paralytic on a Friday and Saturday night and then ending up in casualty. Strangely casualty departments have been strangely quite since the lock down.

My son who drives an Ambulance reckons they have never been so quite, they have not attended a road accident or a drunken town event in 7 weeks. There main reasons for call outs at the moment is to suspected heart attacks, major DIY accidents and to Covid patience who either need reassurance or ferrying to hospital and even this has dropped off over the last couple of weeks.
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Not trying to generalise here to much but I suspect the majority of people protesting will be the younger members of our society whos main hobby is spending most of there hard earnt on getting paralytic on a Friday and Saturday night and then ending up in casualty. Strangely casualty departments have been strangely quite since the lock down.

My son who drives an Ambulance reckons they have never been so quite, they have not attended a road accident or a drunken town event in 7 weeks. There main reasons for call outs at the moment is to suspected heart attacks, major DIY accidents and to Covid patience who either need reassurance or ferrying to hospital and even this has dropped off over the last couple of weeks.
Hmm, no generalisations there, you are either shitscared of dying and stay in the cupboard under the stairs, or so stupid as to think yourself as invincible, and hang out with your mates in the park drinking beer until you fall over, and no in between.

Hospitals are quieter than usual, because people have been frightened into submission by the huge amount of scaremongering perpetuated everywhere, and are petrified of contracting the killer virus.

The greedy corporations that own old age care homes, whining because they have to buy PPE for their staff, when they charge residents £850 per week for their care, and this reduces their profit margins, while the carers and nurses have to deal with the afermath.

People so risk averse, they are afraid to leave their homes?? come on, there is a lot talked about the possible physical results of contracting covid-19, what about the mental and economical costs of continued restrictions?

I am in no way condoning, nor supporting idiots who feel in necessary to demonstrate in this way, but the lockdown was not designed to save lives, it was put in place to prevent the NHS critical care services becoming overwhelmed by critically ill patients.

What you end up with is, unless you cut yourself off completely from society, are the same, or at least a very similar amount of people succumbing to the worst effects of the virus, but spread over a longer period.

Where it becomes difficult is the balance between fear borne of inertia and return to some semblance of normality, and how people view the risk to their lives and that of those around them.

Do nothing and the country dies a death, return to a version of normality where the country survives.

If a vaccine becomes a reality, I've no desire to partake in a mass vaccination programme, nor a mass electronic "track and trace" programme.

I am participating in a study of recovered Covid-19 patients on the 27th, where blood is taken in the form of a standard donation, and a sample tested for antibodies to the virus, the collected plasma used for the possible treatment of people who are experiencing an extremely adverse reaction to Covid-19.

It should be remembered that 98% of infected people will be either asymptomatic, or display only very mild symptoms, and of the 2% adversely affected, 80% will go on to make a full recovery........is that reason enough to bankrupt the country, and ruin the future of so many people?

Life is not a dummy run, and we do not get to choose when we die, so we must make the best of whatever time we have, and that does not hiding until we are told it is safe to come out unless you are genuinely vulnerable.

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Old 16th May 2020, 05:56   #8
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It is really simple.
Protect yourself as you see fit and proper i.o.w. mind your own business!
Let other people mind theirs.
I don't get that people don't get that.
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I don’t see any point in confronting protesters on their latest tired supposed rebellion. In their jaundiced eyes that justifies their existence.

If they are genuinely sceptical that’s their prerogative and presumably their fate in one way or another. As they cannot actually know they are right in their assumptions, it’s a lost cause anyway. So starve them of the oxygen they need (no pun int.). Let them protest, so they can’t sue you or further their cause.

Can only assume some of them are mere camp-followers and would protest anything that arose. They are protesting because they can and to limit what we all can protest against will eventually cover the one subject that’s dear to most.
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Just another version of "rent a crowd".
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