Remap

Dansrockin · 26th January 2016, 20:44

Hi all, I'm thinking of getting a remap on my cdti. I was looking at getting the 160 map off philt4, but I've heard of the custom remaps that are about.
Not having had the chance to try a remapped car, can anyone explain the benefits and negatives if there are any, of both types, and also when compared to a standard car.
The car is auto if that makes a difference.
Thanks

Canonite · 26th January 2016, 20:50

I'd think about a 190 brake upgrade if you're remapping a diesel to around 350nm torque.
Standard 284mm probably aren't sufficient to brake hard from mid boost

Chaz Lee gets some good rep but depends what you want from the map.

Gino · 26th January 2016, 21:06

Hi Dansrockin,

Phil done my remap on Friday and it really is worth it. My car is a R75 tourer auto originally 116 powered so this is a very useful increase.

The car pulls much smoother now, and when one wants to, she really shifts

. I have already seen an improvement in my MPG and, once my MAF sensor is replaced, I expect to see another increase. I'm only talking about 4-5 MPG improvement, but added up over a year its worthwhile.

Not to mention the driving pleasure!

Rob

Sector-9 · 26th January 2016, 21:07

In a car with a manual gearbox, you can expect to see an improvement in economy (provided you drive gently) as the extra power allows you to hold higher gears for longer. This advantage is largely lost on the auto where it changes at preset revs/throttle positions, however it won't hurt the economy.

Of course, the engine is also more powerful which is useful if you tow, and can make the car feel nicer to drive because it's more responsive. Two caveats though: 1) if your car is suffering because of a fault (either known about or otherwise), then that needs addressing first as the remap could potentially make things worse. 2) your insurance company will definitely want to know about this modification and are likely to increase your premium. Unlike a tuning box, it's not easy to tell if the engine has been remapped, but nor is it impossible and the insurers will very likely investigate further if you're involved in a crash where it may have been a contributing factor.

Heddy · 26th January 2016, 21:33

Hi Dan, do a little digging/homework, and be sure whatever re-map you decide on isn't going to ruin your car. Get assurances that you can have the map reversed if not satisfied. Just be careful, there's a lot of mappers out there just out to make a fast buck.

daznkel · 27th January 2016, 00:04

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Originally Posted by Heddy

Hi Dan, do a little digging/homework, and be sure whatever re-map you decide on isn't going to ruin your car. Get assurances that you can have the map reversed if not satisfied. Just be careful, there's a lot of mappers out there just out to make a fast buck.

Take note of the above advice!

That said, as long as the PCV, EGR, Inlet manifold, boost hose, MAF, intercooler & associated O rings are all clean/good. You will see a great improvement in power and response.
Phil is a great guy, who offers a great service for the money. He will inspect your car for faults with his T4 before applying the 160 map anyhow, plus also enable/disable options at the same time. For me both the map and overall service are worth every penny.

Enjoy the drive home!

Just realised my subs have run out! Come on payday!

RogerHeinz57 · 27th January 2016, 00:35

Hi Dan. want a test drive in a re-mapped diesel done by Phil T-4, drop me a line and arrange a drive in Roger.
Cheers JohnH.

James.uk · 27th January 2016, 02:17

Get the 160 remap done by one of our accredited installers, I.E. Marinabrian, BigRuss, or PhilT4 who is your nearest 160 remapper innit.

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eumjmorris · 27th January 2016, 04:45

get the remap, from Phil T4 as your nearest, and you wont regret it, it does transform the car, without spoiling economy in my experience, but giving the power you need, when you need it....

kc13661 · 27th January 2016, 05:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by James.uk

Get the 160 remap done by one of our accredited installers, I.E. Marinabrian, BigRuss, or PhilT4 who is your nearest 160 remapper innit.

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I would agree with this, and my next comment is not to discredit anyone so please do not start a thread war

Recently had issues in the Area of Sheffield and Barnsley where an uncredited person has "re-mapped" ECU's and basically only copied a 'stolen' file off another members ECU well just to say that it wasn't actually a re-map and did nothing for the performance of the car

So I too strongly recommend you only consider letting one of our T4 guys anywhere near your ECU or indeed plug any type of diagnostic hardware into your vehicle.

26th January 2016, 20:44	#1
Dansrockin Posted a thing or two MG ZT number 1 of 25 celestial!! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Banbury Posts: 1,967 Thanks: 208 Thanked 242 Times in 166 Posts	Remap Hi all, I'm thinking of getting a remap on my cdti. I was looking at getting the 160 map off philt4, but I've heard of the custom remaps that are about. Not having had the chance to try a remapped car, can anyone explain the benefits and negatives if there are any, of both types, and also when compared to a standard car. The car is auto if that makes a difference. Thanks

26th January 2016, 21:06	#3
Gino Gets stuck in Rover 75 Tourer Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Newmarket Posts: 601 Thanks: 384 Thanked 130 Times in 99 Posts	Hi Dansrockin, Phil done my remap on Friday and it really is worth it. My car is a R75 tourer auto originally 116 powered so this is a very useful increase. The car pulls much smoother now, and when one wants to, she really shifts . I have already seen an improvement in my MPG and, once my MAF sensor is replaced, I expect to see another increase. I'm only talking about 4-5 MPG improvement, but added up over a year its worthwhile. Not to mention the driving pleasure! Rob __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] MODS DONE; plenum spyhole, bonnet cable divider block (previous owner), chrome wing mirror covers, gold fan resistor (previous owner), s/s bumper bolts, uprated under tray fittings silicone intercooler hose, Viton O rings, Crofts door finishers, boot badge, wood dash, Phil-t4's magic wand, wood wheel, mk2 repeaters, HK tweeters & Angel eye projectors.

26th January 2016, 20:50	#2
Canonite This is my second home BMW 330d Tourer, MG ZT 180 SE XPG, VW Polo 6R 1.2 TDI Bluemotion Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: York Posts: 6,022 Thanks: 363 Thanked 574 Times in 319 Posts	I'd think about a 190 brake upgrade if you're remapping a diesel to around 350nm torque. Standard 284mm probably aren't sufficient to brake hard from mid boost Chaz Lee gets some good rep but depends what you want from the map.

26th January 2016, 21:07	#4
Sector-9 Gets stuck in Rover 75 CDT manual Tourer Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: nr. Mansfield Posts: 767 Thanks: 24 Thanked 182 Times in 137 Posts	In a car with a manual gearbox, you can expect to see an improvement in economy (provided you drive gently) as the extra power allows you to hold higher gears for longer. This advantage is largely lost on the auto where it changes at preset revs/throttle positions, however it won't hurt the economy. Of course, the engine is also more powerful which is useful if you tow, and can make the car feel nicer to drive because it's more responsive. Two caveats though: 1) if your car is suffering because of a fault (either known about or otherwise), then that needs addressing first as the remap could potentially make things worse. 2) your insurance company will definitely want to know about this modification and are likely to increase your premium. Unlike a tuning box, it's not easy to tell if the engine has been remapped, but nor is it impossible and the insurers will very likely investigate further if you're involved in a crash where it may have been a contributing factor.

26th January 2016, 21:33	#5
Heddy This is my second home None Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: None Posts: 5,556 Thanks: 465 Thanked 1,161 Times in 924 Posts	Hi Dan, do a little digging/homework, and be sure whatever re-map you decide on isn't going to ruin your car. Get assurances that you can have the map reversed if not satisfied. Just be careful, there's a lot of mappers out there just out to make a fast buck.

27th January 2016, 00:35	#7
RogerHeinz57 I really should get out more....... A Reasonably Priced Car Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Burton Latimer Posts: 2,530 Thanks: 408 Thanked 1,064 Times in 712 Posts	Hi Dan. want a test drive in a re-mapped diesel done by Phil T-4, drop me a line and arrange a drive in Roger. Cheers JohnH.

27th January 2016, 02:17	#8
James.uk Passed Away 2002 Pale Blue. Rover 75 CDTi Connoisseur auto. 170K miles Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Near the M67. Posts: 14,509 Thanks: 199 Thanked 585 Times in 397 Posts	Get the 160 remap done by one of our accredited installers, I.E. Marinabrian, BigRuss, or PhilT4 who is your nearest 160 remapper innit. ...

27th January 2016, 04:45	#9
eumjmorris Loves to post R75 now just two diesel tourers Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Droitwich Posts: 399 Thanks: 479 Thanked 72 Times in 46 Posts	get the remap, from Phil T4 as your nearest, and you wont regret it, it does transform the car, without spoiling economy in my experience, but giving the power you need, when you need it....